EVE General Discussion

Been playing over a year in High Sec , trading and mission running.

,,,,,,,,,,,, so what is there to do outside of High sec, and how does one get started doing that very cool thing?

Hoping for constructed starting points, rather then a "Hey just find a cool corp" kind of thing, as I have a corp with my herd, etc..

I've heard about Ratting (is that just like level 4's) or DED (Don't know what that is), or 4/10 (don't know what that is either)..

So you Eve smart crowd, how about helping out us uninformed enthusiasts. It's very obvious that there is a division from the Null Sec group and the High Sec group..... what's so cool about Null (we all know Low is just to kill high Sec folks).

PVP, is it worth doing, I mean for the fun aspect of it....not worrying about the ISK loss? Anyone reluctant to Null sec and now love it?

Thanks

^^ That. Anything particular that strikes your fancy?

The Providence region.

Im so sorry to hear that. What did those carebear highseccers tell you about the big scawey nullsec? Instadeath as soon as you jump in? Everyones out to kill you? Bubbles on all gates (none of them having actually seen a bubbles or even know how bubbles work at all...strange how everyones an expert on the bubble subject) complete with instadeath gatecamps? Were all blue to each other and its all pillowfights and trading bras?

Im interested to know what all the "cool" kids are saying about us who sit at the back of bus.

The idea that null-sec is the endgame of EVE is flawed, if you ask me. Sandbox games inherently does not have endgames.
What I want from null, and what many others get from it, is the group dynamics (friendship actually is magic), the achievements (I've been in this corp/group for almost a year now, and boy have we come far) and, something that seems uniquely centered around sov. 0.0 or faction warfare, the "politics/diplomacy/organisation matters" parts.
A thing such as rule/law-making - I find it incredibly fascinating to ask why a specific rule is in place... or why this group and that group historically are enemies, or the customs of different groups. Being a part of the "army without a land" (S2N), when we find a new home, kicks out whoever lived there before and settles down...
That was for me an incredible experience.

Then there are purely organisatory/opportunity perks. In high-sec you don't really get to experience the thrill of two collossal war-engines colliding in a starsystem, for a war that started between two minor entities but were used as a casus belli by the regional great powers. Simply by being in a sov. 0.0 organisation, such occassions will knock on the door, for better or worse.
You might say that access to capital ships and pvp is easier in sov. 0.0 ... that is not necessarily true, but depends on your current corp and whatever you compare yourself with. For sure that most pvp will be "cheaper" outside hi-sec, since SRP becomes a major thing in both some low-sec organisations and most 0.0 organisations.

For specific pointers... well it much depends on what your goals are.
If you want to get out there and pvp, you should make sure that your interests and theirs are compatible. If you spend 300M buying PvP ships and a ratting boat (This might very well be in the lower end of prices), only to find out it didn't work out ... well, better check throughoutly first and then go out, right? ;-)
For PvP corps/alliances - MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SRP. SRP stands for Ship Replacement Programme, and is essentially how much of your expenses you get covered if you lose the ship. Most alliances have a programme where they pay a part of what the regular insurance is below Jita hull price - ask about this before deciding. An alliance with for example 50% of the hull on logistics and 0% on other ships is an alliance you should keep away from.
Also, make sure you ask what they focus on re. PvP. Some corps don't think 40+ fights is PvP for anyone but the FleetCommanders, while others think 75 people duking it out is simply a skirmish to test the waters before attacking with 500 people. Make sure that you and the corp/alliance you're joining are on the same page.

ISK making, at last, is not something you generally should go to 0.0 for. If you go to 0.0 to get rich, you're doing something wrong. You can probably do a slow accumulation of assets and isk, but all that famous wealth of 0.0 ... is not because of 0.0, but because 0.0 has older players with more assets.
Ratting is not like L4's, although the income is sometimes comparable. Ratting is either belt-ratting (As in hi-sec) or anomalies (As in hi-sec). DED sites and x/10's are various sites that are either rarer or harder to find, but give more in terms of isk, or modules (deadspace modules, for example).

There are really tonnes of stuff I know I haven't really touched upon, but it is hard to start explaining everything about the EVE sandbox. If you have questions to me, feel free to ask although I can't promise a good answer.
I am sure others can answer too, but probably better if you narrow in your questions a little.

Everything I have written is from my own perspective, my likes and dislikes, and even if I see and hear many who agree more or less, there are those who disagree somewhat or entirely. Ask around, don't just accept any opinion as the true state of affairs in Paradise.
Oh, and good luck!

Find a good corp. No seriously.

Personally, I suggest going with a major alliance that has some staying power. You don't want to find yourself in nullsec one week and the next you can't dock back up and retrieve your stuff.

If you need ideas, I have tons of contacts. Hit me up in game and we'll find you the best corp for your interests and personality.

Wow, some very good feedback.

It's these answers that "I think" most players that are sort of stuck in High Sec like myself can really use.

I make about 10B or so a month after Plexing accounts and I am thinking, WHY? Why do it, just to run the same "world's collide" mission, Fleet Mine or whatever over and over..

As some have stated, the NULL sec thing has this "scare" over it, like everyone in there is just a "donkey" if you know what I mean.


I suppose when it's all said and done, it's just get in there and check it out. I have like 15 characters, so I'll just rig a frig for one of the more attractive girl characters with cheap implants "no pun intended" and check out the lower section.

Thanks.

i pvp on this account and it was easy to get into a decent nullsec corp.
NB what i consider decent is dependant on what i wanted from a pvp corp,

I have a exploration alt that does solo WH diving, high sec and low sec sites also.
if you want to do something in eve it is easy. if u want to LEAD somethijng in eve it is hard.

If he wants to join Goonswarm, more power to him. I have plenty of contacts there that could help him. All he has to do is ask.

I remember getting a little bored of missions when I was a couple of months old, so I decided to go exploring wormholes instead. That was pretty fun. Even though I was mainly aiming to just grab all the Arkonor before anyone noticed, the fact that you didn't know who was around gave it a bit of an edge.