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CCP HELPc Question about Dueling

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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-06-06 07:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Baren
So I me and another guy were both in cruisers in highsec... we decided to duel so I sent him a duel request, he accepted and the duel began... 30 seconds later and ishtar and mega warping and start shooting me. concord did nothing and they were showing in my limited engagement counter. I never accepted a duel with these people nor do i have kill rights... can some explain how this is possible.... and does this me that eve the duels are safe as 1v1's
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#2 - 2013-06-06 12:38:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tah'ris Khlador
Hmm. I wonder if RvB - Blue Republic is at war with anyone...

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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-06-06 14:27:08 UTC
nope that isnt it at all.... can someone please explain how this happened?

I noticed the other two people were in his corp... when you duel someone does that make it so their corp mates have a limited engament on you as well?
Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-06-06 17:41:54 UTC
Can someone give me some insite please
Boomhaur
#5 - 2013-06-06 18:34:01 UTC
I left for awhile, so my question is this since when did we get duel requests. Back in my day we just shot you.

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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-06 18:36:08 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
I left for awhile, so my question is this since when did we get duel requests. Back in my day we just shot you.


Ive been playing since 2004..... So this dueling thing is new to me aswell.
Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-06 19:19:24 UTC
Dueling in eve has no terms. Once you star shooting anything can happen.

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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-06 19:22:18 UTC
Untanas Volmyr wrote:
Dueling in eve has no terms. Once you star shooting anything can happen.


very help full...... seriously
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#9 - 2013-06-06 20:27:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tah'ris Khlador
Presumably you went suspect and thus they could freely engage. A duel only creates an LE but looting a jet can (or adjusting a stack within the can) will cause a suspect flag, as will a variety of "accidental" module use on your target.

EDIT: I just went and looked at your loss mail. First of all, that is a Vindicator, not a mega. Big difference. Otherwise, the KM tells me nothing about what actually occurred. Did you have repair drones out instead of DPS?

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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-06 20:43:15 UTC
no I didnt loot or anything or touch any cans... no those repair drones were from the RvB fleet i was in earliey .....

I dont have my autolocking activated.soo I have no idea how the other two were able to engage me if I was in a due with the original guy in the omen
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-06-06 21:41:17 UTC
This is not the first report I've seen of this. Usually one or two complaints tells me that somebody doesn't understand what happened. I've seen enough that I think there may be something to this.

To the lab!

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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#12 - 2013-06-07 03:28:37 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
This is not the first report I've seen of this. Usually one or two complaints tells me that somebody doesn't understand what happened. I've seen enough that I think there may be something to this.

To the lab!


I imagine it has something to do with this?

"Note: Although a pilot may have only one challenge request active at a time, it is possible for pilots to send successive duel requests in order to expand the limited engagement to include multiple pilots in the challenge."

http://www.eveonline.com/retribution/dueling/
Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-06-07 05:23:23 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
This is not the first report I've seen of this. Usually one or two complaints tells me that somebody doesn't understand what happened. I've seen enough that I think there may be something to this.

To the lab!


I imagine it has something to do with this?

"Note: Although a pilot may have only one challenge request active at a time, it is possible for pilots to send successive duel requests in order to expand the limited engagement to include multiple pilots in the challenge."

http://www.eveonline.com/retribution/dueling/



SO does this mean if I accept a duel from someone, they are able to bring others into our fight by inviting them and gank me.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-06-07 06:34:01 UTC
that fit....

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Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#15 - 2013-06-07 08:36:47 UTC
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no those repair drones were from the RvB fleet i was in earliey .....


And ill bet this was less than 15 min earlier, so you were still suspect ie a valid target for everyone.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#16 - 2013-06-07 10:56:48 UTC
OP seems to be pretty clueless about what is actually going on around him.

If it's a toss up between "There was a bug" and "The OP is an idiot and pressed the wrong button" I'm going with the later.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2013-06-07 12:02:45 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
OP seems to be pretty clueless about what is actually going on around him.

If it's a toss up between "There was a bug" and "The OP is an idiot and pressed the wrong button" I'm going with the later.

he clearly bought the char.

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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-06-07 17:01:04 UTC
lol

1)the RvB fleet was 30+ earlier, no podding was done. and we only fought Red federation

2) I would have need to either lock and activate a module on the others, or aceept a limited engagement with them which wasnt done.

3) Iève been playing ever for 6+ years so I knew what was going on. Dueling is a new thing, and the mechanics behind it seem to be unclear
Shiera Kuni
Electric Machete
#19 - 2013-06-07 17:05:08 UTC
Man up, son! You're representing Blue Republic! Take yer whuppin' like a man!

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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-06-07 17:07:47 UTC
Shiera Kuni wrote:
Man up, son! You're representing Blue Republic! Take yer whuppin' like a man!



lol.... If you noticed, The point of my thread is to find out the mechanics of Dueling... Im not asking fo reimbursment. I just want to know how someone can get more people to come into a 1v1 like that.
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