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New Jump Gate Issues with AMD Cards

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Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#1 - 2013-06-06 10:07:24 UTC
o/

I'm not here to complain about getting motion sickness or anything like that and personally i like the fact CCP took time and effort to give such a old part of EVE a good fresh new look and i like it.

But while trying the new effects on the SISI server using my standard settings for graphics as i do on tranquility it was beautifully smooth and no lag.

Yet playing on tranquility using exactly the same settings and setup using only 1 account i get lag and a fps drop from 80-90fps down to 7-14.

Not Sure if this is a AMD issue or if its a issue with the new jump animation itself i just find it strange how on SISI its nice and smooth yet on Tranquility its kinda laggy and stops and starts.


System Specs :


  • ASUS 2GB O/C 7770 1.2GHz edition (Factory Overclock running latest drivers)
  • AMD 1160T 6 Core 4.15GHz (Stable Overclock)
  • 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1866Mhz Ram
  • 850w PSU so its not a power issue
  • 2 Monitors but i can play BF3 dual monitors with no issues
  • Hard drives are not full and My EVE foldes are installed in SSD's


I checked resource monitors and EVGA precision and my GPU , CPU and RAM are not coming under massive stress issues while jumping either.


Just a reminder i am not here to moan or complain about CCP as this new build is perfect so far and this is just a small little setback but we expect things like this with such a big update.

Thanks and good work CCP Smile

o7
Trytan Blychllad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-06-06 12:04:59 UTC
I've noticed similar lag & 2 pronounced jerks in the animations.

I thought it was just where various loading bars would be placed in the old system. It usually happens in the exact same spot(s) each warp which makes me think it isn't my system but server syncing.

GFX Card:

XFX 3GB Black Edition DD R7970 O/C with latest drivers
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#3 - 2013-06-06 13:00:33 UTC
Yeah thats what i thought , i assume because SISI is under less stress than TQ the loading times are alot less .. i just know that sometimes CCP does not like people with AMD cards Roll
Caroline Grace
Retrostellar Boulevard
#4 - 2013-06-06 14:03:37 UTC
I have painful lags while jumping now too, and I have even GeForce card. The FPS drop ruins the whole effect. Before Odyssey I was running smooth with same settings.

Though I think it's more problem with "loading" the new system than anything else, too much stuff is poof away and all new stuff is suddenly loading or something. The transition is not smooth at all on some machines. Few players reporting this as well.

I already filled the bug report Smile

I'm Caroline Grace, and this is my favorite musical on the Citadel.
THC Trader
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-06-06 14:21:26 UTC
I too get lag with a 6950, 1090t, and 8GB ram.
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#6 - 2013-06-06 15:23:13 UTC
i feel its not a issue of "GET A BETTER PC" like some meat heads have been saying in the forums.. glad to see that im not alone but not glad that other people have the effect of it ruined
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#7 - 2013-06-06 17:20:06 UTC
Just another note using 1 , 2 or 3 accounts and jumping does not change the FPS which always sits at 7 yet i can multibox PVE and not suffer any issues.
Matthias Mecklenburg
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-06 22:43:05 UTC
Josshhh wrote:
i feel its not a issue of "GET A BETTER PC" like some meat heads have been saying in the forums.. glad to see that im not alone but not glad that other people have the effect of it ruined

I am encountering the same issues in the jump animations as other are describing here. I have also experienced my EVE client shutting down entirely at the end of a gate jump post-Odyssey about 10-15% of the time. Quite the bummer.

I play exclusively on a not-so-special laptop and wholly expect CCP to keep graphics requirements in check or allow us to dumb-down the jump animation as we can with the rest of the in-game graphics. It would be a shame if CCP increases the graphics demands to such a degree that I cannot play without investing in new hardware. Seems completely unnecessary to do so in a game that is already aesthetically great and playable.

Cheers. Smile
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#9 - 2013-06-07 14:59:33 UTC
Matthias Mecklenburg wrote:
Josshhh wrote:
i feel its not a issue of "GET A BETTER PC" like some meat heads have been saying in the forums.. glad to see that im not alone but not glad that other people have the effect of it ruined

I am encountering the same issues in the jump animations as other are describing here. I have also experienced my EVE client shutting down entirely at the end of a gate jump post-Odyssey about 10-15% of the time. Quite the bummer.

I play exclusively on a not-so-special laptop and wholly expect CCP to keep graphics requirements in check or allow us to dumb-down the jump animation as we can with the rest of the in-game graphics. It would be a shame if CCP increases the graphics demands to such a degree that I cannot play without investing in new hardware. Seems completely unnecessary to do so in a game that is already aesthetically great and playable.

Cheers. Smile



I know they have some sort of thing with EVGA and if its related or not related EVE plays alot better and smoother on Nvidia Cards than AMD , and as you can see by the thread no one has posted with similar problems who has a Nvidia card so who knows
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#10 - 2013-06-07 15:07:22 UTC
Would be nice to know if CCP is aware of current issues with AMD cards and more what is causing this gate jump animation lag? All be it not hardware related or is hardware related it would be nice to be know that CCP is aware of such problems.
Frenz Lee
Dragon Research
#11 - 2013-06-07 21:56:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Frenz Lee
+1

But I dont think it's limited to AMD cards. I get about two pauses in the jump animation almost every time.

i5 3570k
8gb
GTX 460

Another thing. More about aesthetics. You get to see the next system through the jump animation a little too soon. Kind of spoils the illusion of travelling.
Gaming God
Gaming God Corporation
#12 - 2013-06-08 03:04:19 UTC
Same with NVIDIA LINKY
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
#13 - 2013-06-08 06:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Meiyang Lee
Oddly enough, looking at your descriptions, my HD5870 isn't having the same issue.
Jump animation is quite smooth, game stays steady at 60 FPS.
Running Catalyst 13.4
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#14 - 2013-06-08 12:39:48 UTC
Meiyang Lee wrote:
Oddly enough, looking at your descriptions, my HD5870 isn't having the same issue.
Jump animation is quite smooth, game stays steady at 60 FPS.
Running Catalyst 13.4


Considering a Nvidia card has the same issue i have a feeling its dependent on the servers load amount.

Although I'm not going to say that's definitely the issue i am just guessing more than anything.
Trytan Blychllad
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-06-09 18:49:19 UTC
I'm bumping for some recognition.

This issue is still occurring.
Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#16 - 2013-06-09 20:44:41 UTC
I don't have this issue but wondering if any other people have this one:

http://imgur.com/olh8P4R

AMD Radeon HD 6670. I submitted a bug report about it yesterday. Anyone else ever have this happen?

Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#17 - 2013-06-09 22:03:50 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
I don't have this issue but wondering if any other people have this one:

http://imgur.com/olh8P4R

AMD Radeon HD 6670. I submitted a bug report about it yesterday. Anyone else ever have this happen?



Not had that issue but i have had issues when in warp or gate jump where my screen goes a skin colour.. also undocking often just gives me a black screen with just my overview and HUD making me redock and undock to fix this..


Would be nice for some CCP intervention on the large amount of graphics issues.
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#18 - 2013-06-11 12:33:39 UTC
New patch did nothing. actually made it worse.

My screen now freezes mid jump and then i just appear.


Can we see any kind of improvement CCP?
Josshhh
You Can't Have Nice Things
#19 - 2013-06-12 16:43:04 UTC
Something interesting.. i do not get any lag while using a jump bridge... little strange
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2013-06-13 00:53:43 UTC
For the case that the whole thing is not card related: I would be interested to see full logs (from logserver) of such a jump. Attach them to a bugreport and include my name in the title somewhere.

Also things of interest: Are you jumping with many open windows? Windows with a lot of content like assets, bookmarks, market are for example interesting - is there any change if you jump without this windows being open? Do you have an auto-pilot route enabled? Do you notice heavy disk activity?

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

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