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Navy Dominix doesn't get drone optimal range and tracking speed bonus
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-05 23:45:35 UTC

Can anyone explain why the Navy Dominix doesn't get the "10% bonus to Drone optimal range and Drone tracking speed" that the regular Dominix gets...

CCP made a big deal about having one weapon system and not having multiple bonuses for ships. I was excited when I head about the Dominix changes but didn't realize it didn't apply to the "Navy" version. Yes I'm a bit slow LOL

It seems crazy because they "fixed" the rig calibration issue of navy ships because they said it made no sense that the regular version would have an advantage over the navy version... Now they added bonus a regular version of a ship and not the navy version.

Yes the navy version still has the "5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage" but I would take the 10% bonus to drone optimal range and tracking speed any day.

Is this just because they didn't want to make too many changes at once and it'll probably come out in a future patch? I hope so!
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-05 23:47:26 UTC
Because the navy domi is not the same as the regular domi. The navy domi retains it's hybrid weapon bonus making it one of the highest DPS close range brawlers out there.

If you want the drone bonus what's stopping you from using the regular domi?

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-05 23:48:46 UTC
CCP's explanation was pretty darn clear as to why they left it as they did.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#4 - 2013-06-05 23:56:25 UTC
I would have been quite upset if they had taken away the hybrid damage bonus from the Navy Domi. Just as I would have been upset about taking away the guns from the Armageddon Navy.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-06-06 00:00:57 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
@ Tsukino Stareine
I'm using it for missions and don't really want to downgrade to the regular domi to get the bonus. I can see how it would be nasty for PVP so maybe this is why. It just seems weird with CCP removing most of the multiple weapon bonuses that they keep it. Either way it still works well.

@ Derath Ellecon
I missed CCP's explanation. That's why I asked here.... Lately RL has been taking up most of my game and internet time Big smile
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#6 - 2013-06-06 00:04:27 UTC
The Navy Domi is patently superior for missioning purposes. It gets the hybrid damage bonus.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-06 00:06:01 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
I would have been quite upset if they had taken away the hybrid damage bonus from the Navy Domi. Just as I would have been upset about taking away the guns from the Armageddon Navy.

-Liang


Yea I feel you when it comes to changes. I'm not too excited about the new apoc look but oh well I'll deal with it. I knew there was a reason why they didn't change the navy domi. All the ones I've ran into the wrong end of had neuts but I'm sure lots have guns... God I hate neuts!
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-06 00:18:15 UTC
IIshira wrote:
@ Tsukino Stareine
I'm using it for missions and don't really want to downgrade to the regular domi to get the bonus. I can see how it would be nasty for PVP so maybe this is why. It just seems weird with CCP removing most of the multiple weapon bonuses that they keep it. Either way it still works well.

@ Derath Ellecon
I missed CCP's explanation. That's why I asked here.... Lately RL has been taking up most of my game and internet time Big smile


The Dominix Navy Issue roughly keeps the same attributes as before, as we wished to keep it unique and were not willing to change it on the same pattern than its Tech 1 counterpart. For being a Combat ship however, it gains some hit points at the cost of mobility and signature radius.

Really... It was all of 2 clicks to get to the dev blog. Faster than it would have taken to start this post.
DeAira Skord
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-06-06 00:29:39 UTC
As a noob that hasn't trained large hybrid turrets, I also would have preferred the drone bonus.

Oh well.

Rengerel en Distel
#10 - 2013-06-06 00:36:34 UTC
DeAira Skord wrote:
As a noob that hasn't trained large hybrid turrets, I also would have preferred the drone bonus.

Oh well.



Use the regular domi then. It can do any L4 without a problem, perhaps even faster than the navy domi if you don't have the turret skills anyways.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-06-06 00:38:09 UTC
the regular domi isnt a "downgrade" it's just a different ship

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DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
#12 - 2013-06-06 01:16:48 UTC
DeAira Skord wrote:
As a noob that hasn't trained large hybrid turrets, I also would have preferred the drone bonus.

Oh well.

As an older player who does have Large T2 Hybrids I STILL would have preferred the new secondary bonus on the NDomi as well. I'm not upset they kept the Hybrid bonus but would have been happier with the Drone bonus. I'm just hoping CCP lives up to the comment (no I can't find the thread) where they said they're looking into ways of making true Drone boats better. I'd kill a mother to see that new Drone secondary (that the Domi got) on my RS! It's already my goto ship when I need a serious tank and/or long range.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#13 - 2013-06-06 02:30:10 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
I would have been quite upset if they had taken away the hybrid damage bonus from the Navy Domi. Just as I would have been upset about taking away the guns from the Armageddon Navy.

-Liang


the gankageddon is just so classic if they totally ruined it I don't know what I'd do. the domi I'm not as worried about, but it is nice that they kept the gank monster potential intact.

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Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#14 - 2013-06-06 02:38:16 UTC
N.Domi will outperform a Domi for missioning purposes but only if you invest in a pimp shield tank/armor tank to get the most out of both the gun dps and the sentry dps. The regular Domi will be far superior if you don't have good hybrid skills and the optimal + tracking bonus is amazing for sentries and you can easily make it work with a cheap T2 armor tank while not giving up any sentry damage/application.
Bigg Gun
T.I.E. Inc.
#15 - 2013-06-06 04:24:09 UTC
I wonder what do people put in the turret slots of regular domi, do you just stick AC's in there?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-06-06 04:32:04 UTC
Bigg Gun wrote:
I wonder what do people put in the turret slots of regular domi, do you just stick AC's in there?


i plan to use 1200mm artillery

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Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#17 - 2013-06-06 06:32:21 UTC
Bigg Gun wrote:
I wonder what do people put in the turret slots of regular domi, do you just stick AC's in there?

Remote reps, neuts, drone range extenders, cloaks, energy tranfers. That kind of stuf.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#18 - 2013-06-06 07:38:06 UTC
Bigg Gun wrote:
I wonder what do people put in the turret slots of regular domi, do you just stick AC's in there?


civilian guns for agro? If I ever do fly a domi for PVE it will be a support boat following another character adding 800 mostly attention free dps, to nearly any range required in missions, so I'd have remote reps and energy transfers on it, with a drone link augmentor or two.

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Bigg Gun
T.I.E. Inc.
#19 - 2013-06-06 07:42:14 UTC
BTW I'm really happy they didn't mess(much) with the original navy domi. 25% more hybrid DPS is cool
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#20 - 2013-06-06 08:01:00 UTC
The classic Dominix was my go to ship for the later part of my first year. After hitting my first 10m SP in core and tanking skills I used my first remap to Mem/Per for the next 10m SP in drones. The standard Dom became quite an effective ship by the time I was able to use drones II and sentry drones II and I didn't have to worry so much on T2 Gunnery, EW warfare and other branches needed to effectively pilot other battleships.

I have switched to the Navy since I am currently filling out my large T2 Gunnery (like many remapped to P/W earlier this year) skills.
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