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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1 - 2013-06-05 14:38:18 UTC
Quick question.

Is this character bound or acct bound?

The reason I ask is that I don't want to sell someone a character and find out I've misrepresented what he can fly.

Mr Epeen Cool
Mulani Askiras
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-06-05 14:39:49 UTC
You've misrepresented.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2013-06-05 14:40:45 UTC
If your CHARACTER could fly it before your CHARACTER can fly it after. If you had 3 characters who could fly all 4 command ships before the patch then all three of them can STILL fly all 3 command ships. If you had 2 who could and one who couldnt then you STILL have 2 who can and 1 who cannot fly them.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2013-06-05 14:41:59 UTC
Skills are not tied to accounts, they are tied to characters.

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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
laTaureau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-05 14:43:04 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
If your CHARACTER could fly it before your CHARACTER can fly it after. If you had 3 characters who could fly all 4 command ships before the patch then all three of them can STILL fly all 3 command ships. If you had 2 who could and one who couldnt then you STILL have 2 who can and 1 who cannot fly them.



This isn't exactly true, as I can no longer fly my Obelisk. Whether I was given warning or not...
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2013-06-05 14:45:55 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Skills are not tied to accounts, they are tied to characters.



That's the thing I'm wondering.

I can fly the ship even though a look says I need another 20 days of training to sit in it. I just want to be sure that the person I sell it to can do the same.

Mr Epeen Cool
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-05 14:47:27 UTC
laTaureau wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
If your CHARACTER could fly it before your CHARACTER can fly it after. If you had 3 characters who could fly all 4 command ships before the patch then all three of them can STILL fly all 3 command ships. If you had 2 who could and one who couldnt then you STILL have 2 who can and 1 who cannot fly them.



This isn't exactly true, as I can no longer fly my Obelisk. Whether I was given warning or not...


If it's true and you didn't make an error yourself, then petition it as you should be able to. But with the amount of idiots who make misstakes and whine on the forum without even trying the undock button, I'm past the point of giving the benefit of doubt.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#8 - 2013-06-05 14:51:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Mr Epeen wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Skills are not tied to accounts, they are tied to characters.



That's the thing I'm wondering.

I can fly the ship even though a look says I need another 20 days of training to sit in it. I just want to be sure that the person I sell it to can do the same.

Mr Epeen Cool



Just undock in it, and you'll know for sure.

if you can't, it's bugged if you could fly it before.

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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#9 - 2013-06-05 14:54:36 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Skills are not tied to accounts, they are tied to characters.



That's the thing I'm wondering.

I can fly the ship even though a look says I need another 20 days of training to sit in it. I just want to be sure that the person I sell it to can do the same.

Mr Epeen Cool



Just undock in it, and you'll know for sure.





Know what? That I can fly it? I already know that I can fly it.

The question is will the same thing apply to the acct I sell that character to?

Mr Epeen Cool
laTaureau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-05 14:56:06 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
laTaureau wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
If your CHARACTER could fly it before your CHARACTER can fly it after. If you had 3 characters who could fly all 4 command ships before the patch then all three of them can STILL fly all 3 command ships. If you had 2 who could and one who couldnt then you STILL have 2 who can and 1 who cannot fly them.



This isn't exactly true, as I can no longer fly my Obelisk. Whether I was given warning or not...


If it's true and you didn't make an error yourself, then petition it as you should be able to. But with the amount of idiots who make misstakes and whine on the forum without even trying the undock button, I'm past the point of giving the benefit of doubt.



From what I understand it was well documented that once the new patch hit you would need Advanced Flight Command level 5 to fly Freighters, which previously you never.

Even though it was documented it still goes against their line 'what you could fly before you can fly now' and also means I have to spend another 25 days learning a skill I didn't need before..
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#11 - 2013-06-05 14:56:47 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Skills are not tied to accounts, they are tied to characters.



That's the thing I'm wondering.

I can fly the ship even though a look says I need another 20 days of training to sit in it. I just want to be sure that the person I sell it to can do the same.

Mr Epeen Cool



Just undock in it, and you'll know for sure.





Know what? That I can fly it? I already know that I can fly it.

The question is will the same thing apply to the acct I sell that character to?

Mr Epeen Cool


That's the idea.

But, :CCP: so maybe petition before you sell it.






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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2013-06-05 15:17:42 UTC
Read the Dev Blog. Learn the difference between the Pre-requisites for flying a ship and the pre-requisites for injecting a skillbook.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-06-05 15:20:44 UTC
laTaureau wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
laTaureau wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
If your CHARACTER could fly it before your CHARACTER can fly it after. If you had 3 characters who could fly all 4 command ships before the patch then all three of them can STILL fly all 3 command ships. If you had 2 who could and one who couldnt then you STILL have 2 who can and 1 who cannot fly them.



This isn't exactly true, as I can no longer fly my Obelisk. Whether I was given warning or not...


If it's true and you didn't make an error yourself, then petition it as you should be able to. But with the amount of idiots who make misstakes and whine on the forum without even trying the undock button, I'm past the point of giving the benefit of doubt.



From what I understand it was well documented that once the new patch hit you would need Advanced Flight Command level 5 to fly Freighters, which previously you never.

Even though it was documented it still goes against their line 'what you could fly before you can fly now' and also means I have to spend another 25 days learning a skill I didn't need before..


You need it to inject the skill, not to fly the ship. If you already had XX freighter trained, you can fly it.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#14 - 2013-06-05 15:23:31 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Read the Dev Blog. Learn the difference between the Pre-requisites for flying a ship and the pre-requisites for injecting a skillbook.


Good God, Ruby!

You actually answered the question I was asking and it was helpful. I should have picked up on it myself. Too early in the day for me, I guess.

Thanks for that.

Mr Epeen Cool
Revman Zim
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-06-05 15:24:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Revman Zim
laTaureau wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
laTaureau wrote:
The Slayer wrote:
If your CHARACTER could fly it before your CHARACTER can fly it after. If you had 3 characters who could fly all 4 command ships before the patch then all three of them can STILL fly all 3 command ships. If you had 2 who could and one who couldnt then you STILL have 2 who can and 1 who cannot fly them.



This isn't exactly true, as I can no longer fly my Obelisk. Whether I was given warning or not...


If it's true and you didn't make an error yourself, then petition it as you should be able to. But with the amount of idiots who make misstakes and whine on the forum without even trying the undock button, I'm past the point of giving the benefit of doubt.



From what I understand it was well documented that once the new patch hit you would need Advanced Flight Command level 5 to fly Freighters, which previously you never.

Even though it was documented it still goes against their line 'what you could fly before you can fly now' and also means I have to spend another 25 days learning a skill I didn't need before..



WRONG! You do not need any nested skill to FLY a ship. You need nested skills to INJECT the next higher skill. So, if you already have the Freighter skill injected you can fly a ******* freighter.

Get in the damn ship and undock.

How many times do we have to do this......
Suicidal Blonde
Alchemical Aquisitions
#16 - 2013-06-05 15:30:15 UTC
Saw the perfect explanation of this earlier. Can't remember where now.

Went something like
command ship - Hey. Wanna ride? Cool, you got command ships? Awesome hop in. Don't have those pre requisites for command skills? Don't care. That's Command ships problem.

Possibly not 100% relevant but I liked the explanation.
Nitrogen Isotopes
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-05 15:31:44 UTC
laTaureau wrote:
From what I understand it was well documented that once the new patch hit you would need Advanced Flight Command level 5 to fly Freighters, which previously you never.


You don't need advanced spaceship command V to fly the ship. You need advanced spaceship command V to train freighters I. You need to have freighters I and advanced spaceship command I to fly the ship.

This lets a character fly a freighter. There is no hidden flag, attribute, or secret handshake that CCP gave a character or account that unlocks specific ships because "they could fly it before".
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-06-05 15:33:00 UTC
Did you make this thread just for the sake of it

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