Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Source? I see a lot more calls for Aeons and Archons (especially Archons).

Archons because they combine two of the most powerful things in the game: Resistance bonuses and Remote Repair.

A lot of people fly Thanatos/Nyx because going Gallente put the drone skills straight into your pocket and was a natural progression, similar to how the Gallente get a new Industrial class ship every level. It sort of walks you straight to the capital class in a natural manner.

That and the Nyx is gorgeous as ****

The thanatos has a fighter damage bonus, which is now fairly useless as fighters are **** compared to sentry drones. This means that the archon is much better at both combat roles carriers have, sentry and triage.

Also what do you suggest giving the minmatar caps instead of the bonus you are removing?

The aeon is widely agreed to be the better super to have in fleets as it is much harder to kill and you don't do damage if you are dead. For solo ganking its a toss up between the nyx and the hel (9 second align time <3).

Please get some experience with using caps and supers before making suggestions about them.

You have never actually seen one of these fleets operate have you? They are literally death to subcaps. Fighters are limited by travel time, tracking and vulnerability to smartbombs. Sentrys do better dps, instantly applied with better tracking. I never mentioned bombers so no idea where you got that from.





You are suggesting giving all other ships two bonuses and the minmatar caps one, try thinking before you post.

My reaction when I read "Carrier/Super carrier rebalance":

HELL YEAH

But after reading what idea it was...


Seriosly, the carriers DO require some rebalancing, you are right about that, but NOT that kind of rebalancing
First:
It kind of doesn't make any logical sense that a supercarrier (Aion) has a stronger tank than a ship that's a few times its size

My suggestion for Carrier and Supercarrier rebalance:
-) seperate drone bay and fighter hangar
Why?
Because it is easier to organize and WILL prevent people from filling their Carrier dronebay with TONS of drones so that no matter how many you get rid of with smartbombs, the guy will just put out the next set of Sentrys -.-

And that also allows Supercarriers to field normal drones ;)
Since the ability to field drones was removed from the Supers mostly because they SPAMMED them and there was no point in smartbombing the 20 sentries because of the insane amount the opponent had in storage

Just give them a drone bay large enough to store a few flights of the maximum amount a carrier/supercarrier can field:
Meaning:
Carrier:
max. 15 Drones (with L5 skills and 5 DCUs)
2 or 3 flights of them will do

Supercarrier:
Max. 25 Drones (with L5 skills and 5 DCUs)
not more than 3 flights, best would be 2 or 2.5 flights

--> Supercarriers are balanced again and do more about ships smaller than battleships and still aren't able to spam them without end



Oh, and about the Thanatos and Nyx being the best carrier/supercarrier:
NO.
Nyx has 25% more damage, but Aion has 50% more tank--> Aion is actually superior to the Nyx
Archon and Thanatos are basically the same

Just one more thing:
Don't give the Supercarriers the ability to field Triage
Just don't
You can deal with a triage carrier easily (That's why Siege and Triage are "suicide modules" in fleet battles unless you have a VERY good plan), but you most likely won't be able to kill an Aion supercarrier in Triage (Triage gives bonus to tank, remember?) in time since as soon as he comes out of triage, the fleet buddies will repair him-->VERY hard to kill repair plattform

==> Fleet battles with Supercarriers become VERY stupid

No one cares about loosing sentries, we carry over 300 of them. Just because TEST are only using the doctrine in a specific way does not mean that is all they are capable of.

You claimed I said bombers were ****, i did not. I said fighters are ****. Big difference.




Ah ok i see what your getting at, try to word your ideas more clearly in future. So yes lets take the nid, an almost exclusively armor tanked ship, taking away its usefulness in armor fleets, that's a great idea!

Opinion based on experience so feel free to bow out since you have none.

If you really think that things must be better because more people have them then I give up trying to help you, you just can't fix that much stupid.

Then feel free to provide a single example where slowcats are used in any role other than a defensive one.

I never claimed you said anything, I'm only taking about damage bonuses to both carriers and supers.






That's a direct quote from my original post. I guess reading comprehension is not one of your strengths, unless of course you just didn't realize the Nid/Hel gets both armor and shield transfer amount bonuses.



Well at least you're addressing my idea instead of suggesting everything is fine as it is. As I said in a previous post, the slot layout for the Nid and Hel are completely different from the rest of the carriers and supers. Every other race gets an extra slot to the rack with the highest number of slots when going from carrier to super, while the Hel (7 mid/5 low) has a layout opposite to that of the Nid (5 mid/6 low). The Nid would simply have to change to a 6 mid/5 low layout in order to keep in line with it's proposed role as shield logistics.

Well that's easy, just warp the carriers to the POS. You don't need the shuttles or the newbs.

Seriously, a proposal for rebalancing carriers that assumes that the Thanatos is the best carrier is unlikely to make much sense. In general, carriers are logistics platforms, not damage ones.