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Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2013-06-02 08:34:14 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


For you PvP excitiment comes from the hunt. And a hunt isn't worthy if you hunt for small game.

For some PvP excitiment comes from the fight. And the fight isn't worthy if the outcome is decided before engaging.

For some, its about both.

To demonstrate: you wouldn't get a kick from engaging in a 2 billion isk frig with a risk to lose it several times per hour, because you don't like to fight, you like to stalk.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-06-02 09:58:21 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec..

Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main.

As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones.

(Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore)

I don't care about you or your opinion or epeen number crunching. I play for me, I pvp for me. You don't matter unless your on my list of war targets.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#23 - 2013-06-02 11:26:53 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec..

Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main.

As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones.

(Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore)

I don't care about you or your opinion or epeen number crunching. I play for me, I pvp for me. You don't matter unless your on my list of war targets.


Your list of war targets in 2009?

Pro tip, if you don't want epeen crunching, don't take yours out and wave it around like you're the **** when you are basically a carebear.

There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to go for bigger targets (Although tbh high sec isn't where you get the truly big targets). But trying to lord over what is and isn't propper pvp when you have hardly pvped at all/Won't post with your main is pretty close to the definition of silly.

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Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
#24 - 2013-06-02 11:58:07 UTC

If solo pvp means only frig sized ships in 5% of EvE space then yeah it's pretty dead. You can do it of course but it's the same as regarding lvl 1 missions as a valid ISK income.

Most guys advertising solo pvp aren't doing it solo for the most part.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-06-02 12:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec..

Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main.

As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones.

(Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore)

I don't care about you or your opinion or epeen number crunching. I play for me, I pvp for me. You don't matter unless your on my list of war targets.


Your list of war targets in 2009?

Pro tip, if you don't want epeen crunching, don't take yours out and wave it around like you're the **** when you are basically a carebear.

There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to go for bigger targets (Although tbh high sec isn't where you get the truly big targets). But trying to lord over what is and isn't propper pvp when you have hardly pvped at all/Won't post with your main is pretty close to the definition of silly.

What part of I dont care about your opinion don't you understand? Shouldn't you be increasing your 10:1 frig duelling stats or something ;)

My stats are 7:1 and I fight solo, entire alliances around 1000 vs me. And I do it in billion isk ships. My bio pretty much sums me up. My last war was 25/0 while I'm certainly not the best I'm skilled at what I do.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
#26 - 2013-06-02 12:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Mother Drone
To be a bit more "constructive" ...

@ TE You're not doing it wrong and you're doing it wrong at the same time. You just don't get many fights roaming around anymore because almost no one else does. The "vets" amongst PvP'ers rarely leave their home system and prefer to gank the sh*t out of passing travellers (be it solo PvP'er, noobs or PvE'er), therefore crippling low-sec population to where it is now. Which is the second reason for the lack of targets.
Either you keep on roaming over huge distances to get a fight (where the outcome isn't determined before aka bait/cyno/blob) now and then, or you try to hunt your targets in a more aggressive manner (scanning them down) or you play the bait yourself and kill at least one of your targets before you die horribly Pirate

You're a few years too late to get PvP by roaming through New Eden.

edit: now with less spelling errors
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#27 - 2013-06-03 10:55:21 UTC
Mother Drone wrote:
To be a bit more "constructive" ...

@ TE You're not doing it wrong and you're doing it wrong at the same time. You just don't get many fights roaming around anymore because almost no one else does. The "vets" amongst PvP'ers rarely leave their home system and prefer to gank the sh*t out of passing travellers (be it solo PvP'er, noobs or PvE'er), therefore crippling low-sec population to where it is now. Which is the second reason for the lack of targets.
Either you keep on roaming over huge distances to get a fight (where the outcome isn't determined before aka bait/cyno/blob) now and then, or you try to hunt your targets in a more aggressive manner (scanning them down) or you play the bait yourself and kill at least one of your targets before you die horribly Pirate

You're a few years too late to get PvP by roaming through New Eden.

edit: now with less spelling errors

That is just not true..

While it is true that the game is absolutely filled with faglords.. a ton of older and good newer pvpers roam every day..

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KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-03 19:46:19 UTC
If you're not getting enough fights you're simply not risking enough. When you undock a ship for PvP (for solo especially), the best way to get fights is to try and get yourself killed. I mean, you can apply some reason to this but fortune favours the bold in my experience.

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade
Durbon Groth
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-06-04 02:34:22 UTC
Before this decends into a squabble about boosting alts, I'll drop in some geographical info that may help you out.
As you've heard already, fac war space is great for getting fights. If you want to roam into nullsec, head for NPC nullsec regions such as Syndicate or curse as they're great hotspots for pvp, though finding solo fights may be more difficult. Also watch for bubble camps at the entrances to null.
Use the tools available to you. In your map, you can colour starsystems by number of kills in the last hour/day and by number of people in space. If you're looking for targets that may not be prepared to shoot back, head to deep nullsec pockets with around 10-30 pilots in local. You can also see starsystems by number of jumps/hour so you can clearly see well traveled pipes, which are often good to camp.
Hope this helps!
Ginger Barbarella
#30 - 2013-06-04 21:48:57 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


Wow. You probably don't even know how fail your post there was, do you?

Amazing...Roll

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2013-06-04 22:01:03 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


Wow. You probably don't even know how fail your post there was, do you?

Amazing...Roll


I can confirm that Shadow Cartel only ever shoots frigates and dessies (we sometimes shoot cruisers too but nothing too big and scary)

Would never get anything worth half as much as two whole billion! that would be insane!

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Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-06-05 00:48:22 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.

I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.

Pros -
Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling
Baiting less of a problem
No gate gun aggro
You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are
In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist
Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps

Cons
Requires intel gathering
Requires access to locators
Requires scout
Cant shoot everyone
Nuetrals
You will get hunted by fleets


So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers?

I see.
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#33 - 2013-06-05 00:50:10 UTC
Solo is dead and never existed in this game. SOLO is a STATE OF MIND for true eve on-line sciencetologist.

Also if you're bad at something. Why not cut your losses and do something else? After-all. Trying is for failures, people with low self esteem and people who are still virgins over the age of 14 (just sad).


- killz

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]
Alien Youth
The forsaken swarm
#34 - 2013-06-05 01:52:25 UTC
IDK what you are doing but i find plenty of ppl to die to in ls.
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#35 - 2013-06-05 02:30:05 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
and people who are still virgins over the age of 14 (just sad).


held it together until this

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-06-05 05:33:32 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


Wow. You probably don't even know how fail your post there was, do you?

Amazing...Roll


I can confirm that Shadow Cartel only ever shoots frigates and dessies (we sometimes shoot cruisers too but nothing too big and scary)

Would never get anything worth half as much as two whole billion! that would be insane!


You guys couldn't even kill an FCON Titan if you tried!

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Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
#37 - 2013-06-05 08:05:13 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.


Attention everyone not pvping in a Tengu or other very expensive ship, it's all over go home Infinity Ziona says you are not really doing pvp.
Jibin Hok
Snickers.
#38 - 2013-06-05 09:31:06 UTC
The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.

Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.
Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
#39 - 2013-06-05 10:35:08 UTC
Jibin Hok wrote:

The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards.
blah blah
I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.


Do you even read the posts written before you?
Since i'm very self centered and the person i like the most is the one in the mirror, i'd like to quote myself:


Mom wrote:

If solo pvp means only frig sized ships in 5% of EvE space then yeah it's pretty dead. You can do it of course but it's the same as regarding lvl 1 missions as a valid ISK income.

Most guys advertising solo pvp aren't doing it solo for the most part.



And btw. even the last sentence is true for you as well.
Jibin Hok
Snickers.
#40 - 2013-06-05 12:11:53 UTC
Mother Drone wrote:
Jibin Hok wrote:

The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards.
blah blah
I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.


Do you even read the posts written before you?
Since i'm very self centered and the person i like the most is the one in the mirror, i'd like to quote myself:


Mom wrote:

If solo pvp means only frig sized ships in 5% of EvE space then yeah it's pretty dead. You can do it of course but it's the same as regarding lvl 1 missions as a valid ISK income.

Most guys advertising solo pvp aren't doing it solo for the most part.



And btw. even the last sentence is true for you as well.




Okay yes, maybe it's dead in most parts of space, but it deffinately is not in the warzone. So if someone wanted to do solo pvp, then theres a place for that, so it isn't completely dead. And when i solo pvp, i do it solo. Otherwise i wouldn't be calling it that.
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