EVE General Discussion

I have read so much complaining...

I wish for one week those of you who are complaining and bitching would have to suffer through a major update, suffer through the hours of hours looking at code, testing code, reading over and over and interacting with your peers just to make sure you got everything as nearly perfect as humanly possible.

Of course perfection does not exist in human experience, we can only strive for perfection as a goal, yet never attain it.

Imagine if you will working at a job where you regularly work overtime to resolve issues your clients and customers have no clue you have resolved before they ever became an issue. Imagine resolving issues before the majority of your customers discover there ever was one, imagine people you do not know, attacking this system you have built over a decade, attempting to bring it down, damage or otherwise cause issues and problems. And then imagine, the very customers you serve, bitching and complaining, without having not even the slightest clue of all the hard work, energy, stress, education, collaboration, preventative maintenance, lost weekends and family time, and on and on and on. Then perhaps, just maybe, you will begin to understand the incredibly difficulties that these people face on a regular basis, and never sung as heroes but by few.

You pay a pittance, an insignificant little tiny amount of the total cost to make this place available to you, to enjoy. And yet you expect so much, demand even more, and in your crass ignorance demand things to be as would please you.

For those of you that understand, and conduct yourself with the grace and dignity that EVE, CCP, and all their employees deserve, I commend you. And many if not most without fully understanding what is involved, I commend you as well. For you, this post is not.

But for those of you with only complaints and not compliments, you disgust me. I hope someone shoots you down like the dogs you are, in high, low, null or wormhole space. Over and over and over again!

Until you know, until you have worked your butt off for ungrateful and unknowing customers that don't really care at all about the human cost of what you are doing, for them, you have no place to talk. You should reserve your posts until you understand how insulting you are in posting what you already have, and if you had a wisp of any intelligence you would realize that you do not know, and should apologize for not knowing and posting on that which you shouldn't.

well about 800 mb....that isnt much. :-) Already downloaded. :-)

And imagine how bad it is to go through all that, and then realise that the thing you have spent all that effort and time deploying doesn't actually work properly and is making the game worse for a huge amount of players.
If only there were some sort of test server where changes could be deployed and people could feedback on them and changes could then be crafted to how the actual playerbase plays the game. IF ONLY there were!!!!!!

Where are you getting to download the patch from

Where are you getting to download the patch from

There's this cool new thing, called Eve Launcher.

I agreed with your first post, but have to say you're way off target on this one. Adaahh was pointing to the fact that CCP *do* use test servers, but alluding to the view expressed by some that they don't properly listen to the feedback from those who test stuff on the test servers. That's something one might agree with, or disagree with, but it's hardly the kind of self-righteous "haven't a clue" comment you're making it out to be. There are plenty of examples of that in these forums - I can't agree that this was one of them.

This is exactly the type of thing I am speaking of...

If you worked on a major network with hundreds or thousands of connections, for any length of time, you would realize that testing is essential, as CCP does which is obviously the reason for them using test servers.

However, you would also know from experience, that no matter how hard you test any software, that the real problems do not come to light until it goes live, and is fully put to the test by all users.

The EVE system, the marketplace, the ship balancing, all of it is extremely complex. Just try navigating the marketplace. Look at all the third party apps and web sites that have been created to support it in different ways, and even still it's dynamics are barely understood.

When you insist on posting on subjects you cannot even begin to fathom because you obviously do not yet possess the experience or knowledge, you shed light on your own ignorance. Perhaps, maybe, just maybe, if you educate yourself a bit better, and maybe gain some real world experience, your post would shed different light upon you. But until that time, any attempt you make at posting sarcastic condescending remarks about CCP deploying that "thing" as you put it, updates, expansions, etc, will only make painfully obvious for those that do know and understand just how deep your ignorance in this regard goes. I cringe when I read posts like yours, because if you had even the slightest clue you would be embarrassed as I am embarrassed for you. Just ask any professional IS technical field how difficult major software updates are, then ask them how difficult custom proprietary software updates are, don't believe me do your own research. But until you educate yourself far better than you have, you shouldn't comment because you simply just do not possess the knowledge to do so.

You really have no clue, none. Let me say in in another way, you are devoid utterly of any knowledge that you could possibly base your biased selfish and inconsiderate remarks on. In your case it would be better if you said nothing at all and left people to wonder, than to write things like you have and remove all doubt.

I will say it yet again, people like yourself, with your over inflated self righteous indignity utterly disgust me. Grow up, stop acting like a child, it's a game, A GAME, it's not as if this is affecting your ability to feed, shelter and secure your life.