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Will publishers allow used game sales on the PS4 ?
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Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-04 01:25:08 UTC
Second hand sales have been pretty much dead on the PC for years now. The Xbox One is going to have them, but all we know about the details is that there will be a fee.

Sony have been very consistent about what they are doing with the PS4. Here's the latest article confirming what we already knew.

Quote:
any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers. Sony won't require that." (Emphasis added.)


That sounds good. Sony isn't forcing publishers to block second hand sales. Just like nobody is forcing EA or Valve to block used games sales on PC. But they still block second hand sales of their games on PC.

On previous consoles, blocking second hand sales wasn't an option. Which led to online passes so publishers could get some money out of second hand sales. If publishers are planning to allow second hand sales on the PS4, why is EA ending its online pass program ?

Sony

Better question: What incentive do publishers have for allowing second hand sales on the PS4 ?
I'm talking big publishers here. Publishers that sell games through Steam and/or Origin and have the sales figures to show that PC gamers don't care about second hand sales.



I will not be surprised if the only platform that allows second hand sales is the Xbox One, and it only allows them because MS forces them upon the publishers.
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#2 - 2013-06-04 04:21:34 UTC
How big is this used games thing anyway? I wouldn't resell games even if I could. I like having my games.

Any of the old console games(super nintendo, N64, Dreamcast, playstation) that I sold I regretted deeply.


Besides if we could sell games on steam then they would have to stop all the great sales. Otherwise people would just "stack up" and then compete with the publisher for the remainder of the year.

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Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-04 05:56:21 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
How big is this used games thing anyway? I wouldn't resell games even if I could. I like having my games.

It's an issue that's getting a lot of noise regarding the Xbox One. Noise that MS is ignoring because they know that the vocal gamers will buy it anyway.

Lots of people saying they will be going to the PS4 over the Xbox One because the PS4 will have used games. Me, I'm a happy Steam user so I hadn't thought about it much beyond pointing out the number of Steam users complaining.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#4 - 2013-06-04 06:05:57 UTC
At least Steam offers periodic huge discounts on older games, so effectively, as a user, you get some of the benefits of used games transactions (and then some extra benefits for whoever put out the game, which normally would have gotten nothing) with no middleman (other than Steam itself, that is).
Sure, as a user you don't get cash back to use for the purchase of new games, but in the end you can play more games for the same total investment a bit later down the line (compared to what you'd have managed if you used to sell your games and constantly buy new ones) and you also retain the ability to still play all your old ones at any time (unlike what happens if you sell them off).
The only downside is that you can't sell them all to "cash out", so to speak, but, eh.

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Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#5 - 2013-06-04 06:12:06 UTC
Wait until E3 next week. That's when we'll probably get an official word. A lot of info going around about both systems, not just one, is a bunch of rumors and/or vague, easily-misinterpreted PR statements.
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-04 06:34:27 UTC
Baby ChuChu wrote:
Wait until E3 next week. That's when we'll probably get an official word. A lot of info going around about both systems, not just one, is a bunch of rumors and/or vague, easily-misinterpreted PR statements.


This.

Hold off for the official confirmation on what is and was is not.

I'm hoping for the PS4 to allow more backwards comparability via the PS Network but im doubtful. Would love to upload my physical games onto their network.

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#7 - 2013-06-04 18:57:10 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Would love to upload my physical games onto their network.


Not sure about that but you will probably be able to buy them again eventually...

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-05 03:39:28 UTC
At a reduced price one would hope. Wouldnt mind paying $5 for having the games again if there were some unique code to allow physical purchases to be added to the account.

Or do it like steam does it. Physical box adds to digital account.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#9 - 2013-06-05 19:55:37 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
How big is this used games thing anyway? I wouldn't resell games even if I could. I like having my games.

Any of the old console games(super nintendo, N64, Dreamcast, playstation) that I sold I regretted deeply.


Besides if we could sell games on steam then they would have to stop all the great sales. Otherwise people would just "stack up" and then compete with the publisher for the remainder of the year.


gave you a like just so I could unlike later ... HOW DARED YOU sell those old game cartridges? If I sold my Original NES, Turbografx, GENESIS , Atari 2600 and ColecoVision cartridges I would feel like selling half of my soul for a bunch of rotten copper coins.

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#10 - 2013-06-06 03:34:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelique Duchemin
Brujo Loco wrote:
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
How big is this used games thing anyway? I wouldn't resell games even if I could. I like having my games.

Any of the old console games(super nintendo, N64, Dreamcast, playstation) that I sold I regretted deeply.


Besides if we could sell games on steam then they would have to stop all the great sales. Otherwise people would just "stack up" and then compete with the publisher for the remainder of the year.


gave you a like just so I could unlike later ... HOW DARED YOU sell those old game cartridges? If I sold my Original NES, Turbografx, GENESIS , Atari 2600 and ColecoVision cartridges I would feel like selling half of my soul for a bunch of rotten copper coins.

Bad! BAD ANGELIQUE BAD! X

PD: I feel you Cry


To be fair I only sold "the simpsons" for the genesis, my N64 with all its games and then "Johnny bazooka tone" for the playstation.

in 1996 a used games store called me and offered me the equivalent of 78 Euros (not counting inflation either) for my "secret of mana" for the SNES but I refused to sell it. Still have it and still play it.

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