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Thanks to the down time I will not have all the racial BC skills.

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Ayuren Aakiwa
Shadow Legion X
Seriously Suspicious
#81 - 2013-06-04 01:08:48 UTC
Jacob Muvila wrote:
So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp?
This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.

I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training.
So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.



WAHHHHHHH. You are so ungrateful I can't stand it, any other MMO would have, maybe, just got an update as to why the server is down. You really don't appreciate anything CCP has done for all of this weekend and quite frankly you should just GTFO
dark heartt
#82 - 2013-06-04 01:19:12 UTC
Jacob Muvila wrote:
Zinn Tesla Hadron wrote:
Jacob Muvila wrote:
So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp?
This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.

I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training.
So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.



I have a better idea for you:

1. delete your eve folder.
2. Tell your mommy you need your diaper changed.
3. Ask her to kiss your boo-boos and make them feel better.
4. Hello Kitty Online. Made for you, OP.



Was this an attempt to be funny?
Take at least 5 to 10 minutes next time and think before you post something stupid like this.
I am pretty sure I have been playing EVE much longer then you.
You are probably some wow kid transfer who thinks they are some MMO leet pro now because you came to EVE.



Here's a post that took 5 - 10 minutes to think up.

The downtime was not CCPs fault, so any post like this comes across as whining. If you had trained all of the skills well in advance (I started a lot later than I wanted and still got them finished a week ago), then you would be whining about not being able to train something else. I had a skill come off the queue right in the middle of the downtime and lost about a day of training time. Unfortunate, but not the end of the world.

Also:
Quote:
We will be looking at ways to compensate players in both EVE and DUST for the outage and expect to announce what that compensation will be very soon.

Your argument is invalid.

So yes, delete Eve, get your diaper changed, get mummy to kiss the boo boo and then make your way to Hello Kitty online.

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Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
#83 - 2013-06-04 01:20:01 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:

PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.

Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.

It affected everyone.


No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2013-06-04 01:25:59 UTC
Ricard Chastot wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:

PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.

Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.

It affected everyone.


No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does.


No, you don't even understand.

The training clocked stopped on CCP's end. Your long skill training was stopped for hours. It doesn't match Evemon's completion time anymore, too. My toons completion time was 1:07am and 1:09am, it was moved up to over 5am now.

4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end.

Trollers need to at least check what they're trolling about.

This is probably why CCP is thinking about compensation, as it actually affected everyone who was skill training.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
DRGaius Baltar
Perkone
Caldari State
#85 - 2013-06-04 01:29:44 UTC
Jacob Muvila wrote:
So now because of down time my alt should have finished Cruiser 3 but will miss it. And we got no SP comp?
This is complete BS. This is a new character I purchased I would have made the training within 10 hours of down time but now I am a almost 2 days without a que.

I think we should be comped for this 100,000 sp at least. Also I was going to spend the weekend earning the isk to plex my 3 accounts now one of them I will have to let expire until I make the ISK to pay for it again so that is at least an other day of missed training.
So on top of the SP I think everyone should get two days added to there sub times.



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Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-06-04 01:31:24 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Ricard Chastot wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:

PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.

Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.

It affected everyone.


No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does.


No, you don't even understand.

The training clocked stopped on CCP's end. Your long skill training was stopped for hours. It doesn't match Evemon's completion time anymore, too. My toons completion time was 1:07am and 1:09am, it was moved up to over 5am now.

4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end.

Trollers need to at least check what they're trolling about.

This is probably why CCP is thinking about compensation, as it actually affected everyone who was skill training.



You are using logic and reason be prepared for a flaming.
Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you.
Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#87 - 2013-06-04 01:35:10 UTC
Don't stop believing in yourself OP, I'm sure you'll get everything you want.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#88 - 2013-06-04 01:36:05 UTC
Jacob Muvila wrote:
Jacob Muvila wrote:
This is a new character I purchased


The lack of reading comprehension skill is ******* astounding.
My other accounts have been done for months.
This character was bought and it had enough time to get this trained.
One of the reasons I bought it.
But holy **** people please learn to comprehend what you read.

You're missing the point. No one cares... Stop snivelling...

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-06-04 01:36:12 UTC
Jacob Muvila wrote:


You are using logic and reason be prepared for a flaming.
Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you.
Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure.


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Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
#90 - 2013-06-04 01:36:29 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Ricard Chastot wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:

PRO TIP: the clock was stopped.

Skills that's been queued for days lost hours of skill time. Might want to check your training times against the new skill finished times, instead of trolling.

It affected everyone.


No. I was fortunate enough to have a long skill training when the downtime started and I didn't lose any training time. I'm quite certain of this, since I'm planning a remap in two weeks and my skill plan in Evemon for my current mapping is still scheduled to finish the same day and time as before. And Evemon shows the same skill time remaining for my current skill as the game does.


No, you don't even understand.

The training clocked stopped on CCP's end. Your long skill training was stopped for hours. It doesn't match Evemon's completion time anymore, too. My toons completion time was 1:07am and 1:09am, it was moved up to over 5am now.

4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end.

Trollers need to at least check what they're trolling about.

This is probably why CCP is thinking about compensation, as it actually affected everyone who was skill training.


I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you are understanding me.

Here's my situation. I've got a skill plan set up in Evemon that runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. That was before the downtime even started. So, I look at Evemon now, and my skill plan still runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. I lost no training time.

I had Electronic Upgrades V in training before the downtime, and it has advanced as expected.

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Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris
#91 - 2013-06-04 01:37:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Pesky LaRue
Jacob Muvila wrote:

Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you.

Actually, it's been more like:
Jacob Muvila wrote:
Absolutely statement of truth, from my perspective"
The Rest of the EVE Community wrote:
"That's not actually an absolute statement of truth"
Jacob Muvila wrote:
You guys suck!


and lastly:
Jacob Muvila wrote:

Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure.
Oh, the irony is palpable. You're the one bleating about how unfair life has been around EVE, and those making fun of you and laughing at your angst are the ones taking it too seriously?

Heh. Oh you.
Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
#92 - 2013-06-04 01:44:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ricard Chastot
Ace Uoweme wrote:
4hrs of tape backup time lost. CCP shut the clock down on their end.


And what's your source for this? I googled "eve online tape backup" (without quotes so just the keywords) and the only hit on google about it was your post just now (Google's gotten FAST).

EDIT: I don't mean it was literally the only hit, but it was the only hit that was on-topic.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2013-06-04 02:02:23 UTC
Jacob Muvila wrote:
You are using logic and reason be prepared for a flaming.
Almost every response in this thread is. DON'T PICK ON MY GAME ! You said mean things about EVE and CCP now I will say mean things about you.
Feel bad for these guys if EVE ever dies 5-10 years from now they will prob end it all i'm sure.


I'm used to it. It's like watching a prison and/or illicit drug life video here. Justification of antisocial behaviors, meanwhile so addicted to one drug they'll go into DTs if anything happens to their private stash. In WoW, it's like troll threads about justifying ninjaing, when it's mostly detested by WoW players. Anything for a rise. Ugh

They're on the bandwagon of "YOU'RE ENTITLED CRYBABY!!!", yet as an adult (I'm nearly 50 years-old) paying for a service you do expect to get what you're paying for...in EvE it's clock time. If the clock is stopped for tape restore/backup, then compensation is in order for lost clock time. It's not 500k, but a fair average rate (e.g., +3 implants with average attributes). Lost ships/assets are the risks folks sign up to play for EvE, which is a PvP game. This has nothing to do with who did/didn't load 36 day skills last week, as no one but the instigators would know if EvE was going to be DDoS attacked, and even so, a clock stop would've affected even them.

Antics like this maybe the reason more and more MMOs are more solo friendly now, as it's showing if you let the inmates run wild, they'll also run a game into the ground (there's no reason why EvE is sitting at 500k subs, but the community itself). One look here is a reason to doubt investing time and money in this franchise maybe not wise.

I'm a multigamer so can be "free" from the antics here (and find better company to post about games with...many games, not just one), if for anything for positive mental health. Ugh

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2013-06-04 02:07:11 UTC
Having yet to see an MMORPG that doesnt have occasional issues I made sure my last skill trained was DestroyersV. I did that so that if any problems did come up the most I would have to do is train a little bit on each races destroyer. The problem here sounds more like a case of bad planning on the players part rather than an issue CCP is responsible for.
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris
#95 - 2013-06-04 02:10:26 UTC
Gargep Farrow wrote:
The problem here sounds more like a case of bad planning on the players part rather than an issue CCP is responsible for.
Oh man, you're SO going to get it now.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-06-04 02:17:37 UTC
You can afford to plex 3 accounts? Just buy a Charecter with the BC5 skill.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2013-06-04 02:26:32 UTC
Ricard Chastot wrote:
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you are understanding me.

Here's my situation. I've got a skill plan set up in Evemon that runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. That was before the downtime even started. So, I look at Evemon now, and my skill plan still runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. I lost no training time.

I had Electronic Upgrades V in training before the downtime, and it has advanced as expected.


Well, your training time and training time on my two accounts don't jive. Evemon still hasn't updated the new training time, which says 1:08:46am on my main. In the EvE ingame queue shows 05:08 (when it showed 01:08 days ago). Plus, it's colored yellow indicating the skill was paused during the downtime (I haven't logged since loading the skill days ago to even touch them. I log in around <23hrs left to load up on the other skills, and definitely not pausing it so close to a deadline. Squeezing all the time I can in).

The queue timer is off.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
#98 - 2013-06-04 02:33:01 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Ricard Chastot wrote:
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you are understanding me.

Here's my situation. I've got a skill plan set up in Evemon that runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. That was before the downtime even started. So, I look at Evemon now, and my skill plan still runs until approx. June 18th 00:30 CDT. I lost no training time.

I had Electronic Upgrades V in training before the downtime, and it has advanced as expected.


Well, your training time and training time on my two accounts don't jive. Evemon still hasn't updated the new training time, which says 1:08:46am on my main. In the EvE ingame queue shows 05:08 (when it showed 01:08 days ago). Plus, it's colored yellow indicating the skill was paused during the downtime (I haven't logged since loading the skill days ago to even touch them. I log in around <23hrs left to load up on the other skills, and definitely not pausing it so close to a deadline. Squeezing all the time I can in).

The queue timer is off.


It's possible that it's just you then. Anyway, I know that it's not everyone, since it didn't happen to me and I haven't seen anyone else complaining about it in the forums (and you know they would be).

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just Kashuken
Doomheim
#99 - 2013-06-04 02:34:11 UTC
Strange I do not see any any character sale post for jacob . I wonder if this is a conspiracy
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#100 - 2013-06-04 02:47:18 UTC
Ricard Chastot wrote:

It's possible that it's just you then. Anyway, I know that it's not everyone, since it didn't happen to me and I haven't seen anyone else complaining about it in the forums (and you know they would be).


It's possible that they don't even know. The bright yellow on a skill I haven't touched since queuing it is what caught my attention (doubt everyone enables that option to show incomplete skills that was paused). Then noticed the training finish times don't match. 4hr difference is about the time for a tape backup/restore, too.

Otherwise, this issue wouldn't affect me at all since the skill was long enough to weather the downtime. Ugh

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