EVE General Discussion

Currently the star map will give intel on current numbers of people in a system. It also gives other information such as, people currently docked, kills made, and pods lost.

In my opinion pods lost and kills made is fair to display, as they all give information after an event has occurred. But giving current numbers in a star system is a very powerful tool, and it also sort of ruins the mystery of roaming through space. First you can see at a glance where people are across the whole of the universe. And secondly everyone can pick you up without even needing a scout simply by looking at the map. Scouting as a profession would become a much more valuable commodity, and people would have to actively scout to gain their own intel. Large alliance's would need to hire more scouts, perhaps mercenary scouts if they trusted them, to actually give them up to date information or risk being in the dark.

In my opinion this is too powerful to give numbers currently in a system, and this should be removed completely. I wondered if everyone is happy with this though currently? I guess the benefits are it could help encourage more pvp, but by using a rather crude method instead of proper intelligence made using scouts.

Except that very little of that information is accurate or up to date.

Is there any need to "encourage move PvP"?

along with remove warp to zero

I have no problem with that

Imagine a map that was, just a map!

Don't see why it has all this data displayed in it. It doesn't need it as its redundant from other professions (scouts).

Cynos lit appear here very much "up to the second". Sometimes if a large fleet is moving about you get ghost data (400 people in local on map, you jump in and .... It's deserted..."

Perhaps it's a vain attempt to show people that life exists in other places, but that's a bit short sighted. Like searching for life outside of earth, we know the odds favor us discovering it, but that hint for it is what drives us to go and look! Map kills drive :(

Except for when you log out in space and never log back in... there are people showing on the map that havent been active for nearly a year (back in autauris for example when we moved soooo long ago)....

Its pretty useless as an intel tool in some respects...

Because modern-day scouts don't have access to maps, or satellites, or radar.

EDIT: Or telephones.

This argument was won (lost in your case) quite a few years ago now. Give it a rest.

If CCP was serious about "Eve is real", and making a truly immersive experience, all of Eve would be like worm holes, no local until someone breaks radio silence.

With one exception: Probes would be considered "active radar", and if someone was out there hunting using probes, the probes would send out a "ping", that your internal onboard systems would immediately alert you to the fact that someone is out there hunting.

Someone wants to hunt down another person using dscan (passive radar) and brains, no problem.
But as soon as you start pinging with probes, you have announced hunting season is open.

Entire fleets of battleships could pass through a system like ghosts.
Space is a BIG place, and it should be represented properly in the game.

Of course, this means the truly stupid decision to make all random grav sites instantly visible would have to be reversed as well.
ALL sites in any system should have to be hunted down, including the current static grav sites as well. They should become random in location, once they are depleted.

CCP wants to introduce exploration into the game, then fine. Do it properly.
Make all sites randomized locations.
Get rid of moon goo and replace it with randomized, expiring sites.

Make all resources something that have to be explored for, be it in high sec, wormholes, low sec, or null sec.

But no, we get some idiotic kid's game of electronic whack-a-mole, followed by a twitch session of who can grab the candy quick enough.