EVE General Discussion

So I go to login and see one of those display once ads. It reads "Plex prices through the roof, some see this as an opportunity!"

My first thought was "most think we're doomed", but good spin CCP, nice to see you trying to get the plex market spinning again properly.

I used to pay for eve via subscription fee, but soon as plex came out, i started using plex bought with iskies instead, feeling that it almost like an 'eve pention' for those that had spent enough subscription money and time to have enough isk to buy them. Essentially, another geek is paying for my game by proxy, and this has been just swell. It's worked fine for several years, but my pile of space gold is gone and its looking like i'm gonna have to fight the OCD and drop all but one account.

Why has plex risen 100mil in a couple of months? Simple principles of economics suggest that demand is greater than supply, so whats happened, is it the supply thats dropped, or the demand? Only CCP can truely know this, and from alot of the 'special offers' they've done recently, i'm thinking that mostly suppply has dropped.

Soooo, why aren't you super geeks and ultra nerds buying the same amount of plex?

Has eve become too socially dynamic and people are learning too many social skills enabling them to spend their money on real life interractions, fueled by drink and weed like everyone else?

Is the average nerd not getting paid enough to tern someone else's office computer off and on again in the current economic climate?

Did that many hard-core players really quit after the whole walking-in-stations-so-you-have-something-to-spend-micro-transactions-on CCP-rinse-out began? (My quick 2-cents on that being that if CCP had advertised it as a kinda "charity event to aid a floundering company you love" they'd have made loads more cash and people wouldn't got angry)

So what about demand??

Well, lots of people I know have gone into 'eve hibernation' since the whole aurum nonsense began. This meant people buying 6-12 months worth of plex for several accounts all at once. Also, there's been alot of 'buddy prog / power of two' etc offers, I myself gave in on impulse, and 6 months later am buying one more plex a month i cant really afford.

How bout botting? I've heard several of the subscription based botting suites dont work atmo, and havent for about a month. Firstly, grats CCP, I can't even afford a botting prog let alone your game, so still have the fist-shaking 'pesky-kids' attitude to botters. If you're a botter, you pay for the bot so you can buy plex and not have to pay CCP twice the price. So, once these progs stop working for a month, isotope-prices start going through the roof and I imagine it'd be a sensible idea to spend all your botted isk on plex right away as it would be un-certain if the progs will work again and you'll have the same isk income...

Soo eve comunity (and trolls) whatcha think of my ramblings? Why's the plex price gone so high so fast?

p.s please try not to put too much "we're all doomed/failscade" talk in replies, not interested in whether we're doomed, just why :)

your post lacks a TL;DR.

Also, i do believe that some increase in demand has happened by those who think that by buying plex they are "denying revenue" to CCP.

There are those who will say it has to do with the AUR, but i beg to differ.. I simply think that the supply has been greatly reduced.

If we all do our job and work together, we can get the prices up to a nice stable 600m.

SH

Umadbro

Outsourcing all our labor to China, high oil prices, the european debt crisis..........

This is why plex is so high :P.

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Nobody I know switched to buying plex to 'deny CCP money'.

I switched because seeing the entire monoclegate, CCP trying to force WoD beta on me and spending all of eve's revenue on WoD and Dust, I figured eve was going down the drain.
If they gain enough new subscription fee from the dress-up barbie crowd, fine with me, but I play eve for the spaceships and wouldn't be interested in playing second life in space, so I would have quit sooner or later - not in a 'take that CCP! I cancel my 10 accounts' way, but in a 'I'm simply too bored to continue playing with Eve being entirely stagnant and I'll eventually forget logging in to buy another plex' way.

And why would I have quit with muliple billion isk belonging to CCP anyway? So I decided to buy plex, keep training and if CCP come to their senses, start playing again. Better than quitting and leaving the isk rot on a dead account.




Why on earth would CCP do that? They want people to buy GTCs - once they're converted into PLEX, CCP couldn't care less what happens with them unless prices dropped so low, nobody would pay 15 bucks instead of 10 minutes of ratting.

If CCP would manipulate plex prices (which they admitted they might do in the last QEN), they would intervene to prevent prices from dropping too low.

Note that I don't think CCP is manipulating prices at the moment, but with the addition of more and more easily accessible tremendous isk faucets like incursions, isk inflation is spiraling.
Given the fact that making a bill is as easily done as doing 10 hours of highsec incursions a month, I think a bill for a plex would still be a fair price.

God - why wonder we're in an economic crisis?

Ma sais if fewer people ask for her she drops the price so the demand dorped

i Find reading the book 'Rich Dad Poor Dad" by a japenese guy- helps in situations such as these

I wondered about that myself, but then, there's eve being single shard and people from many different countries are playing the game. Where I live, living expenses for myself are usually 2-3 Plex/day for me - alone.

Anyway - despite generally being rather open-minded to mock people, I refrain from doing it because of that...

Edit to clarify: Wages and social wellfare are equally high, so paying a couple of subs a month wouldn't even hurt the unemployed, but there may be ppl playing from countries where 15$ may feed a family for a month.