Intergalactic Summit

What is needed is action. Not words, promises of a better tomorrow, a far-away land of bountiful plenty. No such land exists. Human nature will corrupt it if it is not already, and all the postulating and promises will have come to nothing.

You cannot bring down an Empire. Nobody can, not even Heth for those of you who oppose him. Me? I know where my loyalties lie. They lie with the State. My needs as an individual come second to the needs of the State. My desires as an immortal capsuleer come second to the desire to see the State flourish. My dreams, though? They take second place for nothing, because my dreams are of Caldari power above all others. My dreams are not my own, they are that of the State.

So perhaps Heth might be a bad leader. I care not. The State will survive him, and the next leader after him, and the next thousand after that. The State endures through the courage and sacrifice of noble pilots who lay down their ships and their lives to serve. Polevhia, can you say that you could commit yourself so fully and completely to this vainglorious folly? Could you die for your State if asked?

If your answer was yes, then stop prancing about with speeches and enlist in the militia like all true Caldari should.

I love how you talk about such things as if you have seen them and judged them to be wanting. Oh, wait. What is that? You haven't seen it at all? Because you haven't tried? You too are welcome to join us. All will be in time.



You mistake my words. I am not dedicated to your State as it is diseased from the core with infighting, corruption, dissonance. Your Militia is a play at war. Accomplishing nothing other then death and blackening the skies.

But I am willing to die for my cause. I have been ever since I joined.

I do not posess Loyalty implants. My cybernetic modifications do not affect my willingness to die for a cause I believe to be right.

Nation's Incursions are the continuation of a war the CONCORD signatories begun in YC37. Just because your people won the initial engagements doent mean hostilities ended. Maybe it is something your leaders should have considered before attempting civilization wide genocide? Also, Capsuleers fail on a daily basis. Only in high security space does Nation encounter strong resistance. Everywhere else it is the same story over and over, Nation triumphs nearely unopposed and pulls out when her goals are accomplished.

The term Provist is used by me in this thread to mean anyone of the Caldari Providence Directorate and their supporters. Of which you qualify as one.

Also things don't have to be this way. You know that We are everything the State claims to be and more. You are buying into propaganda from our enemies without at least giving us the courtesy of seeing the universe from our point of view. I have recently returned from Promised Land and glimpsed into the monument left there by Master Kuvakei. Inside there are wonders beyond counting.

Can you truly say you live in a land where those who should rule actually do so? By the strength of one's contributions? I come from Nugoeihuvi and more often then not, ISK is the only value people see in others. Or luck. There were always traitors in the midst too. Selling secrets to the Federation. To the Khanid. Is that really the State you dedicate your life to? Bloated and corrupt?

As part of the State Protectorate you put your life on the line, and those under your command, for a better tomorrow. But the better tomorrow is already here. You struggle against it, not realizing what it contains. Just let us show you. And after that, you can go on your way. I have not lied nor shall I ever about something so important. Once you see Utopia, I would even dare you to walk away and get as far away from you can if that was your choice.

Diana Kim, though I don't agree with you on everything you do and say and we are, at least technically, enemies, you have definitely earned my respect, both with how you stand by your convictions and how you stand up to people like Evi Polevhia.

I've seen your Utopia. It's only blood, slick machinery, slavery, and finally death. No society as unified as yours can survive. Societies need to fight within each other, struggle internally, so that the best course might win out, or at least, a better one. But if Master Kuvakei decided tomorrow that the Nation should march into an event horizon, the vast majority of the Nation would simply fall in line to do so.

Ms. Polevhia doesn't really have a gift for logical debate, though her own hubris or - perhaps - the subtle urgings of her implants seem to have convinced her that she does. A quick review of some of her IGS comments and other public statements will reveal that negative references to her critic's abilities of "comprehension" are a common pattern in the personal and ad hominem attacks she rapidly employs when her reasoning is questioned.

It is curious that her 'friends' amongst the Nation-loyal recently appear more reluctant to openly support her claims and speculation, preferring instead to leave her defence to those who are merely of a peripheral interest to them - Ms. Amatucci, for example. One hopes that this is not intended as abandonment of their allies but rather as remedial training in rhetoric for their junior mouthpieces.

Yes, we should!


I am not "peripheral". I am special.

I can confirm it's far more than 2-3 times. Very selective memory you have.