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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-06-01 10:08:50 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Clearly you dont fly an Apoc or any Navy Issue BSes.


Clearly you don't know what "content" refers to, as opposed to changing some numbers on a database. I'm well aware of tiericide and the revamps, but these are not new, they are necessary.

Dodixie > Hek
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#22 - 2013-06-01 10:10:03 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Although this expansion doesn't even vaguely compare to the Incarna micro-transactions disaster, I have to say I agree that I am a little disappointed. They said they wanted to make changes that would affect everyone, and frankly I don't see much changing in highsec or lowsec.

Elinarien wrote:
Given that this game is a sandbox where the content is player-driven, how can people then rage that CCP are not delivering "content" in an xpac?


Of course, this is a sandbox and we make the content. This person gets it. Lets remove all the ships, POSes, sov mechanics, Industrial stuff and just fly around in our pods. We can make the content ourselves *Facepalm*



I suppose all YOUR ships, POSs etc were all handed to you by CCP and werent manufactured by players?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#23 - 2013-06-01 10:11:16 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Clearly you dont fly an Apoc or any Navy Issue BSes.


Clearly you don't know what "content" refers to, as opposed to changing some numbers on a database. I'm well aware of tiericide and the revamps, but these are not new, they are necessary.


CLEARLY you havent a clue whats being done, so I have no idea what "content" you think is missing and should be added.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#24 - 2013-06-01 10:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


The CQ was fine. But it was less than half of what everyone was expecting, and it still is. We got one room. Just one. The reason people were pissed at CCP over that expansion was because of the low level of stuff we got to do in-game following the expansion. Also, the greed is good rubbish caused more kicking off than the CQ ever would. They removed ship spinning completely (stupid), and a lot of other stupid mistakes.

CQ would have been welcomed with open arms if they hadn't of messed up so badly. Having said that, Incarna set the stage because Incarna is when they integrated the CARBON engine. And that is probably the best thing that ever happened to Eve (EVER), but no one want's to think Incarna brought Eve the best update ever. It did though. CARBON made Time Dilation possible, and the crime watch changes, and many of the UI issues. It massively improved game performance in almost every area and allowed for a lot of the graphics updates we're seeing now. All of this stuff started in Crucible, the next expansion after Incarna, because Incarna set it up that way. And Crucible was easily the best expansion we have ever had excluding Apocrypha (I personally prefer Crucible, but I understand why most think Apocypha was better).

Sri Nova wrote:
incarna offered nothing .


See above.

Ramona McCandless wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Of course, this is a sandbox and we make the content. This person gets it. Lets remove all the ships, POSes, sov mechanics, Industrial stuff and just fly around in our pods. We can make the content ourselves *Facepalm*


I suppose all YOUR ships, POSs etc were all handed to you by CCP and werent manufactured by players?


If you can't see why that statement is straight up stupid, I wont bother trying to correct you.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-06-01 10:18:43 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
CLEARLY you havent a clue whats being done, so I have no idea what "content" you think is missing and should be added.


CLEARLY (yep this is gonna become a game of oneupsmanship) you're overestimating what's being done. We've had near half of the actual "content" already in the form of the capital and station V3 being added to TQ pre-odyssey. It's great that the little bits of content are being added, but there's nothing magnificent or major that will keep you interested past the day it'll take to get used to the new jumpgate animation or the system scanner animation. Think apocrypha - the last few expansions have been "little" things; where are the plans for something "big"?

Dodixie > Hek
Dave Stark
#26 - 2013-06-01 10:22:07 UTC
i think people confuse "expansion" with "addition"
Beatrice Bourdain
Eve Refinery
#27 - 2013-06-01 10:23:59 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
CLEARLY you havent a clue whats being done, so I have no idea what "content" you think is missing and should be added.


CLEARLY (yep this is gonna become a game of oneupsmanship) you're overestimating what's being done. We've had near half of the actual "content" already in the form of the capital and station V3 being added to TQ pre-odyssey. It's great that the little bits of content are being added, but there's nothing magnificent or major that will keep you interested past the day it'll take to get used to the new jumpgate animation or the system scanner animation. Think apocrypha - the last few expansions have been "little" things; where are the plans for something "big"?



o.o

I am astonished memories are so short! CCP were keel-hauled for focusing on the "big" to the detriment of the "little". They got a real scare when $1million+ worth of accounts unsubbed over this approach.

There is no pleasing some people!
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#28 - 2013-06-01 10:24:46 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


The CQ was fine. But it was less than half of what everyone was expecting, and it still is. We got one room. Just one. The reason people were pissed at CCP over that expansion was because of the low level of stuff we got to do in-game following the expansion. Also, the greed is good rubbish caused more kicking off than the CQ ever would. They removed ship spinning completely (stupid), and a lot of other stupid mistakes.

CQ would have been welcomed with open arms if they hadn't of messed up so badly. Having said that, Incarna set the stage because Incarna is when they integrated the CARBON engine. And that is probably the best thing that ever happened to Eve (EVER), but no one want's to think Incarna brought Eve the best update ever. It did though. CARBON made Time Dilation possible, and the crime watch changes, and many of the UI issues. It massively improved game performance in almost every area and allowed for a lot of the graphics updates we're seeing now. All of this stuff started in Crucible, the next expansion after Incarna, because Incarna set it up that way. And Crucible was easily the best expansion we have ever had excluding Apocrypha (I personally prefer Crucible, but I understand why most think Apocypha was better).

Sri Nova wrote:
incarna offered nothing .


See above.

Ramona McCandless wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Of course, this is a sandbox and we make the content. This person gets it. Lets remove all the ships, POSes, sov mechanics, Industrial stuff and just fly around in our pods. We can make the content ourselves *Facepalm*


I suppose all YOUR ships, POSs etc were all handed to you by CCP and werent manufactured by players?


If you can't see why that statement is straight up stupid, I wont bother trying to correct you.


I pointed out why your statement was "straight up stupid" (whatever THAT is supposed to mean), so you don't need to correct me.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#29 - 2013-06-01 10:26:03 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
CLEARLY you havent a clue whats being done, so I have no idea what "content" you think is missing and should be added.


CLEARLY (yep this is gonna become a game of oneupsmanship) you're overestimating what's being done. We've had near half of the actual "content" already in the form of the capital and station V3 being added to TQ pre-odyssey. It's great that the little bits of content are being added, but there's nothing magnificent or major that will keep you interested past the day it'll take to get used to the new jumpgate animation or the system scanner animation. Think apocrypha - the last few expansions have been "little" things; where are the plans for something "big"?


You dont even know what you want and you are deriding others for getting what they want.

Jealous much? Just because you are too lazy to read the massive list of things being changed and added doesnt make my point any less valid.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-06-01 10:27:20 UTC
Beatrice Bourdain wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
CLEARLY you havent a clue whats being done, so I have no idea what "content" you think is missing and should be added.


CLEARLY (yep this is gonna become a game of oneupsmanship) you're overestimating what's being done. We've had near half of the actual "content" already in the form of the capital and station V3 being added to TQ pre-odyssey. It's great that the little bits of content are being added, but there's nothing magnificent or major that will keep you interested past the day it'll take to get used to the new jumpgate animation or the system scanner animation. Think apocrypha - the last few expansions have been "little" things; where are the plans for something "big"?



o.o

I am astonished memories are so short! CCP were keel-hauled for focusing on the "big" to the detriment of the "little". They got a real scare when $1million+ worth of accounts unsubbed over this approach.

There is no pleasing some people!

no ****.

some people seem to forget that content in EVE is made by the players. CCP only gives out the tools, and sometimes all they do, and need to, is transform a hammer into a screwdriver.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-06-01 10:30:09 UTC
You can tell the people who don't actually play the game, because they want stuff like WIS and think Odyssey has no new content.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#32 - 2013-06-01 11:20:25 UTC
I cannot rage toward subject (EVE) which I am indifferent to.

Also EVE "expansions" are best illustration of idea "free = bad" (well, they aren't actually free / non-commercial - just not purchasable - thus lack of content)
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-06-01 11:29:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Lipbite wrote:
I cannot rage toward subject (EVE) which I am indifferent to.

Also EVE "expansions" are best illustration of idea "free = bad" (well, they aren't actually free / non-commercial - just not purchasable - thus lack of content)

probably, but in CCP, summer is usually more to fix/polish/rebalance the new stuff they usually put on winter.


granted, this schedule went out of whack with Incarnafail, but before it was mostly for that.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#34 - 2013-06-01 11:40:24 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
however you're entitled to your opinion even if it is hideously wrong.


By it's very definition, an opinion cannot be wrong. Just saying.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#35 - 2013-06-01 11:44:16 UTC
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:


Fixes are constant with mmo's, Content is always needed.


The ship teirciding has brought more combat to EVE than any other "content" rich expansion ever.
Dave Stark
#36 - 2013-06-01 11:51:11 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
however you're entitled to your opinion even if it is hideously wrong.


By it's very definition, an opinion cannot be wrong. Just saying.


it can if it's built on incorrect assumptions such as the odyssey expansion is nothing more than a small tweak to the system scanner.
Ankari Lytaken
Inept Astronomics
#37 - 2013-06-01 12:03:38 UTC
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
AzAkiR NaLDa wrote:
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:
So yea, where is it? CQ's was being rolled out and there was nothing but tears. This current expac all we're getting is an improved scanner for exploration with a little candy sprinkled in so where is the rage?

There was absolutely nothing wrong with CQ's (other than my vid card running on overdrive).


Seems like you are one of few that want content rich expansions instead of fixes. Get out off your CQ go outside so we can kill you.



Fixes are constant with mmo's, Content is always needed.


So, get out of your CQ and create some content for me (by allowing me to shoot you).
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#38 - 2013-06-01 12:47:27 UTC
All this back and forth rambling aside about content, I think we just had a tiny bit of rage the other day about the simplicity of the scanners from people who actually enjoy exploring things.....so there's that.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Zaknussem
Everybody Loves Donuts
#39 - 2013-06-01 12:57:06 UTC
The reason so few are raging is because while there isn't anything NEW and SHINY being added except Navy Battlecruisers, a lot of stuff is being fixed, revamped and reworked. For those that remember, this is Quantum Rise all over again, except instead of optimizations released just before the expansion, we get the EvE Launcher debacle.

With Incarna things were FORCED upon us that we did not want, which goes a long way towards explaining the rage. In Odyssey there's something for almost everyone.
Dave Stark
#40 - 2013-06-01 13:03:30 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
All this back and forth rambling aside about content, I think we just had a tiny bit of rage the other day about the simplicity of the scanners from people who actually enjoy exploring things.....so there's that.


from what i've seen on sisi, scanning is exactly the same but just less tedious and boring. there's nothing that's been made "simpler" at all, scanning works in exactly the same way. move probe, hit scan, repeat until signal strength is at 100%.
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