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[Gnosis] Null sec : Serpentis Exploration
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Taktar thopom
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-05-30 13:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Taktar thopom
Hey, i want to try this for 0.0 exploration and combat in Serpentis sec :

http://i.imgur.com/Ue2Bw30.jpg

Vespa II x 5
Salvage drones x 5

Def stats are against serpentis damages.

Any advises are welcome !
Zhang Hunsi
Mega Global Compucon
#2 - 2013-05-30 13:58:18 UTC
Well if you don't get killed at a gatecamp, you'll probably be ok.

I would consider getting a prototype cloak on there if it doesn't kill your DPS much.
SidtheKid100
Wilderness
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#3 - 2013-05-30 15:12:47 UTC
I wouldn't do it, but it looks feasible. However, why lasers against Serpentis? Too much dmg in the form of EM.
Swap it for missiles, blasters, or even rails, and you'll have a much more optimized fit.

I don't always post on the forums, but when I do, I prefer posting with my main.
Taktar thopom
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-05-31 08:08:30 UTC
SidtheKid100 wrote:
I wouldn't do it, but it looks feasible. However, why lasers against Serpentis? Too much dmg in the form of EM.
Swap it for missiles, blasters, or even rails, and you'll have a much more optimized fit.



Because i have only laser skills on this toon.

After that, i will up HAM for the sacrilege, maybe i will fit missile HAM on Gnosis after that.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-31 08:11:40 UTC
If you take that ship out of high sec, someone will have a nice shiny kill mail.
And I don't mean because of your fit.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
sera leonza
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-31 11:04:00 UTC
135 dps tank for null exploration.

Good luck with that.
Taktar thopom
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-05-31 12:09:41 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
If you take that ship out of high sec, someone will have a nice shiny kill mail.
And I don't mean because of your fit.


Why the **** is it a shiny kill ? Gnosis cost 90M its nothing.

Im pretty aware about 0.0, it's Ok dude.
Taktar thopom
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-05-31 12:10:33 UTC
sera leonza wrote:
135 dps tank for null exploration.

Good luck with that.



Yeah its not enough, but BS/Marauder is damn slow and i dont want to change my ship after probing.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-31 13:12:58 UTC
Taktar thopom wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
If you take that ship out of high sec, someone will have a nice shiny kill mail.
And I don't mean because of your fit.


Why the **** is it a shiny kill ? Gnosis cost 90M its nothing.

Im pretty aware about 0.0, it's Ok dude.


are you aware every player only gets ONE per account and eventually after a few years they will be worth multibillions?

If I were going to explore serpentis null I would use an ishtar or tengu.

Art of Explosions
Heinrich Hoss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-31 13:23:40 UTC
Taktar thopom wrote:
Yeah its not enough, but BS/Marauder is damn slow and i dont want to change my ship after probing.



And I want to solo complexes in a shuttle.

You might be able to do some of the ridicolously easy radar, ladar, grav and mag sites in that ship tbf, but it will be a waste of time. Optimally switch the kinetic to EM hardener and go to Sansha nullsec, where your lasers will also be way more effective.
Heinrich Hoss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-05-31 13:26:26 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
are you aware every player only gets ONE per account and eventually after a few years they will be worth multibillions?

If I were going to explore serpentis null I would use an ishtar or tengu.



You get a gnosis BPC from the collectors edition, and don't expect that's the last BPCs being seeded into the game either. Gnosis price will probably be attempted kept at a reasonable level by CCP, especially since it's a crappy ship.
Max Wager
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-05-31 14:00:46 UTC
Heinrich Hoss wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
are you aware every player only gets ONE per account and eventually after a few years they will be worth multibillions?

If I were going to explore serpentis null I would use an ishtar or tengu.



You get a gnosis BPC from the collectors edition, and don't expect that's the last BPCs being seeded into the game either. Gnosis price will probably be attempted kept at a reasonable level by CCP, especially since it's a crappy ship.


I don't think the amount of people with collectors edition BPCs is going to affect the price of the gnosis. The amount of people buying collectors editions is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to how many people already received their gnosis. However, I would expect it to be at least months before gnosi (plural?) approach the price of even an ishtar.
Taktar thopom
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-05-31 14:09:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Taktar thopom
Ok, its decent but crap in high DED complexe.

What do you suggest with Odyssey ?

- Frigate/Pilgrim probing (with 3 more mid slot probing upgrade, why a frigate Oo)
- BS/Marauder/Legion fighting

like this ?
Max Wager
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-05-31 15:03:49 UTC
Taktar thopom wrote:
Ok, its decent but crap in high DED complexe.

What do you suggest with Odyssey ?

- Frigate/Pilgrim probing (with 3 more mid slot probing upgrade, why a frigate Oo)
- BS/Marauder/Legion fighting

like this ?


The frigate part definitely. The easiest, most boring, and convenient ship for the cost would be a tengu. Batlteships and marauders are fine for clearing the sites but they're annoying to move around null. It's far easier to get a t3 safely through null than a battleship. I've never actually flown a legion but I know you can get ~500-600 dps tank on there while doing 650ish dps; although, it's got terrible range which is annoying.
Taktar thopom
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-05-31 20:39:34 UTC
Max Wager wrote:

The frigate part definitely. The easiest, most boring, and convenient ship for the cost would be a tengu. Batlteships and marauders are fine for clearing the sites but they're annoying to move around null. It's far easier to get a t3 safely through null than a battleship. I've never actually flown a legion but I know you can get ~500-600 dps tank on there while doing 650ish dps; although, it's got terrible range which is annoying.


With 3 more exploration module on the mid slot, and analyzer + code breaker, you need at least 5 slots : Frigates cant.
Taktar thopom
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-05-31 20:39:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Taktar thopom
Max Wager wrote:

The frigate part definitely. The easiest, most boring, and convenient ship for the cost would be a tengu. Batlteships and marauders are fine for clearing the sites but they're annoying to move around null. It's far easier to get a t3 safely through null than a battleship. I've never actually flown a legion but I know you can get ~500-600 dps tank on there while doing 650ish dps; although, it's got terrible range which is annoying.


With 3 more exploration modules on the mid slot in Odyssey, and analyzer + code breaker, you need at least 5 slots : Frigates cant.
Marsan
#17 - 2013-06-01 00:16:51 UTC
Dear God hold on the bloody ship for at least 6 months. It will be worth at least as much a navy issue BS in 6-12 months.

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