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Shields ability to 1 slot tank Incursions is killing Incursion tank balance between shields/armour
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Tasha Saisima
Doomheim
#81 - 2013-05-29 22:50:40 UTC
Armor also gets a few seconds extra before they receive armor damage. Quit whining about shield fleets when armor puts out such **** fleets
Ginger Barbarella
#82 - 2013-05-29 22:54:30 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Yeas, cos the easiest way in the game to get endless ISK definitely need a buff...



C6 Magnetar exploiting hypocrite.


Those who can, do... those who can't, find an exploit and abuse the crap out of it until caught by CCP.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Rolstra
Moo's Mudpit
#83 - 2013-05-29 22:55:33 UTC
As much as I sympathise with the plight of the armour community I keep asking myself; ‘Self, why is this a problem? People don’t use shields for a lot of things, and those same people don’t use armour for other things.’

For instance I don’t use the newspaper to wipe my ass nor do I expect to read my toilet paper for the news, get the right tool for the job, if it isn’t working most likely you are using the wrong tool.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#84 - 2013-05-30 00:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Rolstra wrote:
As much as I sympathise with the plight of the armour community I keep asking myself; ‘Self, why is this a problem? People don’t use shields for a lot of things, and those same people don’t use armour for other things.’

For instance I don’t use the newspaper to wipe my ass nor do I expect to read my toilet paper for the news, get the right tool for the job, if it isn’t working most likely you are using the wrong tool.


Trouble with this is that armour was competitive until CCP nerfed them in Escalation a year ago, the tool analogy doesn't fit because the toll was once viable now its almost not thanks to a crappy re(un)balance Oops Face it shield HQ fleets are now the preEscalation equivents of the Legion VG fleets & assaults were made even crappier with the Escalation nerf... CCP get rid of the @#$!! NCN or take out a middle room of the NCNs
The MOM should be buffed so a ~35 man multibox fleet doesn't kill it so easily too. ADD some Niarja frigate waves.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#85 - 2013-05-30 13:36:55 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Trouble with this is that armour was competitive until CCP nerfed them in Escalation a year ago, the tool analogy doesn't fit because the toll was once viable now its almost not thanks to a crappy re(un)balance Oops Face it shield HQ fleets are now the preEscalation equivents of the Legion VG fleets & assaults were made even crappier with the Escalation nerf... CCP get rid of the @#$!! NCN or take out a middle room of the NCNs
The MOM should be buffed so a ~35 man multibox fleet doesn't kill it so easily too. ADD some Niarja frigate waves.


There's 2 variables to this problem:

1. Your community is bad at EVE
2. Your community armor tanks

Guess which one causes you to suck at incursions...

Not today spaghetti.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#86 - 2013-05-30 15:31:05 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Trouble with this is that armour was competitive until CCP nerfed them in Escalation a year ago, the tool analogy doesn't fit because the toll was once viable now its almost not thanks to a crappy re(un)balance Oops Face it shield HQ fleets are now the preEscalation equivents of the Legion VG fleets & assaults were made even crappier with the Escalation nerf... CCP get rid of the @#$!! NCN or take out a middle room of the NCNs
The MOM should be buffed so a ~35 man multibox fleet doesn't kill it so easily too. ADD some Niarja frigate waves.


There's 2 variables to this problem:

1. Your community is bad at EVE
2. Your community armor tanks

Guess which one causes you to suck at incursions...


3. CCP hates armour tank PvE Cry
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Tasha Saisima
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-05-30 17:56:34 UTC
Darth, you have been proven wrong. Please stop blameing ccp for your failure in leadership
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#88 - 2013-05-30 18:34:12 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Tasha Saisima wrote:
Darth, you have been proven wrong. Please stop blameing ccp for your failure in leadership


Judging from CCP's 1/2 hearted attempts to improve armour lately I've been proven right. Still their TE nerf, honeycombing skills, & AAR are pretty sorry steps that'll barely reduce the gap. ( of those 3 only 1 even aims the Incursion inbalance. The thing that screwed armour over was Escalations rebalancing all NPC's in every site except the HQs. )
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Tasha Saisima
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-05-30 19:54:16 UTC
How did that only hurt armor but not shield?
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#90 - 2013-05-31 02:16:32 UTC
Tasha Saisima wrote:
How did that only hurt armor but not shield?


It hurt both but it hurt armour drastically worse
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Tasha Saisima
Doomheim
#91 - 2013-05-31 02:49:04 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Tasha Saisima wrote:
How did that only hurt armor but not shield?


It hurt both but it hurt armour drastically worse


explain exactly what did the incursion update do to armor that it did not to do shields