EVE General Discussion

Hi!
Sorry for the long text, but I could not make it shorter.
I have red every single reply in this thread. Exploration was the theme that fascinated me since hour one in Eve and that's why I am playing EVE.

This is what I had in mind when I started with Exploration:
I wanted Exploration to be intentionally made difficult, for I wanted that other players, who think like me and have the same motivation and passion as I do, to be explorers. People who love exploration and the idea of it so much that they are willing to go through tough times of skilling and experience frustration and many losses, intentionally.

Let me ask some questions and you answer them please:
-You as an explorers lose probes, thus you need to get magic-probes with beam-ability that instantly beam from ship to the sun and magically beam back into your cargo?
- You as an Explorers get lost in WH space because you are careless and fly into WH space without probes and without bookmarking the WH exit, thus magical beam-probes you do need in order to function?
- You as an Explorers fail in putting your probes in formation and you cannot scan down sites properly, thus you need probes with beam-ability to appear in fixed formations in space, all light years away from your ship?
- You as an Explorer are lazy and cannot intentionally dock up with your frigate and again fly out with your Magnate in order to intentionally search for Signatures, but have to get everything delivered on the new Discovery scanner like on a silver tablet, like food that is prechewed for you and you just have to swallow it like a teethless infant?

Well, if you have answered (or had to answer) all questions above with "YES", then you are not meant to be an Explorer in the first place, for you do not have the spirit, the passion, understanding and desire for this profession and should look out for another profession, for with your lack of the true spirit of exploration, passion and understanding, you will not specialize all the way up to a Top-Explorer and -Scout anyway but jump off the train sooner or later, thus wasting your time and eventually leave the game because you did not find your true position and role in game.

If any profession loses its intentionally set difficult barriers that have to be crossed, then its relevance of that profession will get lost; not only Exploration but any profession in EVE or even in life itself.
I mean that if Exploration is intentionally meant to be difficult, then there will be demand for Corporations to search for good and motivated Explorers and Scouts, pay a salary to Explorers and Scouts for their services, and any Explorer/Scout can be proud of being one and reap the fruits of the hard work and long-time skill-investment.

I started playing EVE online and I am still playing it because I intentionally want to play a game that demands patience, high skills, commitment, determination, and passion.
I want EVE to be a game that attracts the mature players, who are 25+ years old or behave that way, who have grown out of the ezpz-games and get bored by them and want something REAL and TOUGH to play.

I want to experience excitement, thrill, and fear of losing my ship and my pod, every time I undock! That's why I play EVE and decided to be an explorer!

Last words to the Developers of EVE:
-Get a feeling and understanding about what problems explorers like Columbus faced when they made the BOLD and RISKY decision to travel in the unknown, not knowing what would be ahead, expecting rather death than success.
-Just get the idea of what immense determination, passion, and faith drove the explorers of the past to leave behind current believes and set boundries and to dare to cross those boundries to search for something they believed in, regardless of what other people thought about them and their ideas.
-Check for yourself in history how explorers died like flies.
- See for yourself on old pictures what bruises, frost boils, torments, sicknesses, etc. the Explorers carried and were ready to carry for their faith and passion for exploring that what they were looking for was more rewarding than even their lives!

Yes, dear EVE-community and EVE-developers, that described above is Exploration according to general beliefs and definition, taught by history and experienced by real individuals!
That spirit of Exploration that drove those explorers in the past defines exploration itself. Anything else, that does not have this spirit of exploration is not exploration but an illusion, desception, and fake of it that just happens to carry the name of it, "Exploration".

- True Exploration was, is, and will always be difficult, demanding, scary, terrifying, extremely risky, punishing with death, but also extremely rewarding when successful, rewarding with immense riches and honor. Anything that calls itself "exploration" but does not carry these characteristics is not exploration but an illusion, meant to deceive.

Fly safe fellow pilots!

Oh, maybe don't mind anymore about the flying safe salute.
I bet in near future we won't need to fly safe anymore, and will be able to beam our ships to any location in the universe too, as our probes can do already.
Beaming? Our probes can do that now, won't take long and our ships will do that too. I promise. The beaming technology has been discovered in the EVE-universe!

How do you like the discovered beaming technology, fellow Explorers?

Giving players no options to find this information represents a pretty significant nerf to scanning. I'm at a loss for words just how terrible this change is.

HTFU, adapt, or get the hell out of the way.

Just because the tears are yours this time doesn't mean CCP is going to change their mind this late in the process.

Hi!
This is what I had in mind when I started with Exploration:
I wanted Exploration to be intentionally made difficult, for I wanted that other players, who think like me and have the same motivation and passion as I do, to be explorers. People who love exploration and the idea of it so much that they are willing to go through tough times of skilling and experience frustration and many losses, intentionally.

Let me ask some questions and you answer them please:
-You as an explorers lose probes, thus you need to get magic-probes with beam-ability that instantly beam from ship to the sun and magically beam back into your cargo?
- You as an Explorers get lost in WH space because you are careless and fly into WH space without probes and without bookmarking the WH exit, thus magical beam-probes you do need in order to function?
- You as an Explorers fail in putting your probes in formation and you cannot scan down sites properly, thus you need probes with beam-ability to appear in fixed formations in space, all light years away from your ship?
- You as an Explorer are lazy and cannot intentionally dock up with your frigate and again fly out with your Magnate in order to intentionally search for Signatures, but have to get everything delivered on the new Discovery scanner like on a silver tablet, like food that is prechewed for you and you just have to swallow it like a teethless infant?

Well, if you have answered (or had to answer) all questions above with "YES", then you are not meant to be an Explorer in the first place, for you do not have the spirit, the passion, understanding and desire for this profession and should look out for another profession, for with your lack of the true spirit of exploration, passion and understanding, you will not specialize all the way up to a Top-Explorer and -Scout anyway but jump off the train sooner or later, thus wasting your time and eventually leave the game because you did not find your true position and role in game.

If any profession loses its intentionally set difficult barriers that have to be crossed, then its relevance of that profession will get lost; not only Exploration but any profession in EVE or even in life itself.
I mean that if Exploration is intentionally meant to be difficult, then there will be demand for Corporations to search for good and motivated Explorers and Scouts, pay a salary to Explorers and Scouts for their services, and any Explorer/Scout can be proud of being one and reap the fruits of the hard work and long-time skill-investment.

I started playing EVE online and I am still playing it because I intentionally want to play a game that demands patience, high skills, commitment, determination, and passion.
I want EVE to be a game that attracts the mature players, who are 25+ years old or behave that way, who have grown out of the ezpz-games and get bored by them and want something REAL and TOUGH to play.

I want to experience excitement, thrill, and fear of losing my ship and my pod, every time I undock! That's why I play EVE and decided to be an explorer!

Last words to the Developers of EVE:
-Get a feeling and understanding about what problems explorers like Columbus faced when they made the BOLD and RISKY decision to travel in the unknown, not knowing what would be ahead, expecting rather death than success.
-Just get the idea of what immense determination, passion, and faith drove the explorers of the past to leave behind current believes and set boundries and to dare to cross those boundries to search for something they believed in, regardless of what other people thought about them and their ideas.
-Check for yourself in history how explorers died like flies.
- See for yourself on old pictures what bruises, frost boils, torments, sicknesses, etc. the Explorers carried and were ready to carry for their faith and passion for exploring that what they were looking for was more rewarding than even their lives!

Yes, dear EVE-community and EVE-developers, that described above is Exploration according to general beliefs and definition, taught by history and experienced by real individuals!
That spirit of Exploration that drove those explorers in the past defines exploration itself. Anything else, that does not have this spirit of exploration is not exploration but an illusion, desception, and fake of it that just happens to carry the name of it, "Exploration".

- True Exploration was, is, and will always be difficult, demanding, scary, terrifying, extremely risky, punishing with death, but also extremely rewarding when successful, rewarding with immense riches and honor. Anything that calls itself "exploration" but does not carry these characteristics is not exploration but an illusion, meant to deceive.

Fly safe fellow pilots!

Oh, maybe don't mind anymore about the flying safe salute.
I bet in near future we won't need to fly safe anymore, and will be able to beam our ships to any location in the universe too, as our probes can do already.
Beaming? Our probes can do that now, won't take long and our ships will do that too. I promise. The beaming technology has been discovered in the EVE-universe!

How do you like the discovered beaming technology, fellow Explorers?

Almost. Pretty much forces you to use an Ishtar though.

Almost. Pretty much forces you to use an Ishtar though.