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what is Max mining yield "orca supported"

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Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-05-29 09:49:40 UTC
No mining drones

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Supplemental EM Ward Amplifier
Supplemental Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner I

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

Slot 07: Michi's excavation augmentor
Slot 10: Inherent implants 'Highwall' mining mx-1005

1705 m3 per minute / 5,115.7473 m3 every 3 minutes

[Orca, Orca: Safety First]
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Mining Foreman Link - Harvester Capacitor Efficiency II
Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement II
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Slot 10: Mining foreman mindlink

+15% mining yield from mind link
-32.34% cycle duration from Laser Optimization II

Boosted: 2899 m3 per minute

Here is where my question comes in. If I were going to use this in a spread sheet where I needed m3 per 3 minutes. Would multiplying 2899 m3 work out right? 8,697 m3 every 3 minutes? This is important for my spreadsheet collection.

Something clever

Danni stark
#2 - 2013-05-29 10:05:29 UTC
the cycle bonus is 32.34%, to convert that in to a yield bonus we do some mathematical wizardry.

1/(1-%bonus expressed as a decimal) so, 1/(1-0.3234) = 1.47

multiply your yield by 1.47 to find out how much more m3 you mine per 3 mins. (that's just the cycle bonus, don't forget to multiply by 1.15 afterward for your foreman bonus)
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-29 21:16:47 UTC
1705.2491 * 1.47 = 2,506.716177

2,506.716177 * 1.15 = 2,882.72360355

So here is the issue than eft says 2898.5 and this says 2,882.72360355?

also would 2,882 be the m3 per cycle for one laser or all 3?

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2013-05-29 21:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Digital Messiah wrote:
1705.2491 * 1.47 = 2,506.716177

2,506.716177 * 1.15 = 2,882.72360355

So here is the issue than eft says 2898.5 and this says 2,882.72360355?

also would 2,882 be the m3 per cycle for one laser or all 3?

1705.2491 * 1.15 / (1 - 0.025 * 5 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.15) = 2898.5296

Looks like rounding error in your math to me.
Lyza Kimbo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-05-30 16:19:08 UTC
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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#6 - 2013-05-30 19:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Don't forget you can get more yield from drones, 5 T2 mining drones with max skills and 2 drone mining rigs can add up to 400m3/minute.

Max roqual Boost cuts cycle time from 3 minutes or 180 seconds down to about 119 seconds (T1 gang link sorry)

Plus mining foreman link adds 15% yield

Plus 5% yield from mining implant

Plus 5% from Michi implant

With max skills in a max yield HULK IPH tells me I will get 5883 m3 per cycle, which translates to 2960 m3/minute

Add on the 400m3 from maxed out mining drones and potential max yield is 3360m3/hr

Of course that does not account for partial cycles for popped rocks or travel time for drones.

But it should be easy for an experienced miner in fleet, with max skills and implants to pull in 3000m3 per minute with a maxed out roqual boost.

Of course how many miners out there have perfect roqual boosts combined with perfect mining skills, every possible implant, and maxed skills for mining drones? I expect not many.

An average well skilled miner like myself with all mining skills maxed except exhummers at 4, a 3% mining implant, in a max yield hulk will pull in at max about 4654 m3 per cycle or about 1550m3/min solo, or about 2400m3/min with maxed ORCA boost. Not including drones. So 2400m3/min is a much more realistic max than 2960m3/min with all the implants and roqual boosts.

For perspective a newer player in a retriever with mining barge 4,Astrogeology 4, T2 strips with T1 crystals, meta 0 mining upgrades, and no implants,(still fit for max yield not tank) which a new miner might think is getting close to max skills, will only pull in about 1000m3/min without boosts. Although your skills are looking good, you are still only 1/3rd the yield of a totally maxed out HULK with maxed roqual boost.

for your exact set up assuming maxed skills mining barge 5, exhumers 5, astrogeology 5, ect. and maxed skills on the ORCA pilot foreman 5, director 5, and war link 5, IPH gives me a yield of 5883.11 m3 per cycle with a cycle time of 121.78 seconds which translates to 2898m3 per minute (all three strips not per strip) or 1961 per strip per cycle with the 121.78 cycle time not 3 minutes.

P.S. I forgot to set T2 gang links in the earlier examples so they will actually be a little higher.

Sounds like you could really make use of EVE ISK per hour program. Aside from mining it has pages for manufacturing, reactions, blueprints, and data cores.