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What happens if I'm skilling BC 5 during downtime on patch day (Odyssey)
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Rhyarkh
Slow Match
#1 - 2013-05-27 14:53:37 UTC
Hi there,

I'm sorry if this question has been already asked before, but searching the forums is broken, currently.

I want to ask what happens if I'm skilling BC 5 during the downtime on patch day (4th July). My main character has already skilled BC 5 and all other important skills, but my 2nd character started training too late ;).

Let's assume the following situation: My character is skilling Battlecruiser V and it won't be finished during the downtime. The following times are chosen arbitrary.

13:00 o'clock: servers are shutting down

17:00 o'clock: server are starting up again, now with Odyssey patch


What happens to my character now?

Is my character skilling BC V until 13:00 or 17:00 o'clock? In other words, will my new racial BC skills have the SP from 13:00 or 17:00 o'clock?

Well, in my scenario the downtime is about 4 hours, so if I want to train all 4 racial BC skills to level 5 afterwards and if training on BC 5 stops at 13:00 o'clock, it will take me 12 hours instead of 3 hours afterwards.

After the servers are running again, is my character training anything (maybe a random racial BC 5 skill) or is the training queue empty? And what is my character training if I had additionally another skill which is not affected by the patch in the training queue (this is only possible if BC 5 has less than 24 hours to train)? Is he training the other skill after the downtime?


Regards

\\ Rhyarkh
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2013-05-27 14:56:33 UTC

You get smacked on the hand for not using the search feature.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2013-05-27 14:57:36 UTC
Your character will get bugged, stop training, lose all BC skills and you'll have to wait 4 weeks for a petition response with no reimbursement.

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Doomheim
#4 - 2013-05-27 15:06:24 UTC
All I know is your training will be paused, if you were training destroyers or BCs at the time the patch is deployed. I take this to mean it will be paused the moment or soon after the server goes offline, because the skills will cease to exist, and you stop training anything until you login again after the expansion deployment and set a new skill to train.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-27 15:09:47 UTC
Might be wrong but I thought I read somewhere awhile back that they were asking people not to train BC and destroyer skills during the patching process.
Danni stark
#6 - 2013-05-27 15:30:37 UTC
if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.

i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying.

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grrlet
Leper Outcast Unclean
#7 - 2013-05-27 19:57:12 UTC
On SISI the "Battlecruiser" skill still exist. I would expect you would start training that which would be wasted SP...unless they're nice and refund the SP when/if they remove the skill at a later date.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#8 - 2013-05-27 20:03:06 UTC
Once the servers go down at 1300 so will your skill training. If you have not completed it by that time it will remain at the previous level.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-27 20:22:41 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.

i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying.


This.

If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post.
Danni stark
#10 - 2013-05-27 20:26:24 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.

i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying.


This.

If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post.


no you don't lose your progress.

The Dev Blog That Clearly Nobody Has Read. wrote:
In case you wonder, the skill reimbursement also includes:

Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you don’t train either of these skills.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-05-27 20:27:21 UTC
You do not lose your progress. The skill queue might stop running, but the SP you have partway into the skill will be duplicated to all of the skill variants you get. Or so I heard.

Wanna be safe? Stop training it the night before, and start training something else.

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Lexmana
#12 - 2013-05-27 20:27:39 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
Might be wrong but I thought I read somewhere awhile back that they were asking people not to train BC and destroyer skills during the patching process.

That would work ... or maybe not.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-05-27 21:29:17 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.

i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying.


This.

If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post.


no you don't lose your progress.

The Dev Blog That Clearly Nobody Has Read. wrote:
In case you wonder, the skill reimbursement also includes:

Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you don’t train either of these skills.



Well that is different from the last quote I had remembered seeing. But it was awhile ago, and I finished all the skills awhile ago.
Danni stark
#14 - 2013-05-27 21:30:49 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Well that is different from the last quote I had remembered seeing. But it was awhile ago, and I finished all the skills awhile ago.


yes, originally they said something about whole integers. rather vague and confusing.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-05-27 21:31:27 UTC
If you were around for the initial announcement almost a year ago and you haven't already trained those skills, I'd say you've got nobody to blame but yourself.

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Hamatitio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-05-27 21:56:25 UTC
Plug some implants in?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2013-05-27 22:01:55 UTC
You will turn inside-out. And explode.

And the “whole integers” response was clear as crystal back when it was the plan. It has obviously changed since.
Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#18 - 2013-05-27 22:20:22 UTC
Hamatitio wrote:
Plug some implants in?


This. Just plug some implants/better implants in and get it done before DT.
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-05-28 00:51:45 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
if you're training destroyers or battlecruisers, it will be paused, and the progress will be duplicated to all eligible variants of the skill once they are split.

i'm going to have each racial destroyer skill with a few hours left on each, rather annoying.


This.

If you were in the middle of 4-5 you lose your progress. CCP was clear on this in a past post.


no you don't lose your progress.

The Dev Blog That Clearly Nobody Has Read. wrote:
In case you wonder, the skill reimbursement also includes:

Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you don’t train either of these skills.

this
Krakhen
Praetors of Orpheus
#20 - 2013-05-28 05:52:55 UTC
This might shed some light on your skill questions.

http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=65344

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