EVE General Discussion

I don't know where you're getting all this "telletubby" and "hummingbird" nonsense from but you should really go back and reread my post. I specifically said these new areas would be like 0.0/WH and would be conquerable, but I guess not everyone reads that well.

You should proooobabbbbllyyyy also watch the Keynote from fanfest this year.... would really illuminate a lot of the things I'm talking about. Not trying to be a ****, but you don't seem to understand anything I'm saying and are operating on a number of false assumptions, probably knee-jerk reactions to previous topics.

Who said anything about peace?

lolwut

What words implied that?

Conquerable space?

Destroyable Stargates?

Under threat?

Poised to strike?

Right now, process granularity is a system. What if that granularity were smaller, the smaller processes comprising maybe 10 AU of space. These 'mega-grids' being tracked by another process. These process being created and destroyed dynamically as needed when players come out of warp, processing being merged when two grids are in close enough proximity. (A design challenge at a system level admittedly.)

Or perhaps go the opposite direction, system granularity becomes constellation based instead of system based.

The point is, make space seem freaking huge, all the empty spaces between systems, all the stuff that could be out there. Eve space as it is now is fish bowls connected with hoses. One absolutely giant fish bowl would be better.

I did read it and I understood it just fine. I just don't think you understand what it takes to conquer an area of space in this game, even one system.

if it can be conquered in EVE then you're quite simply NOT going to accomplish the goal of holding on to it unless either (a) nobody else wants it, which will mean it's useless space or (b) unless you have a couple of thousand buddies watching your back.

It's that simple.

Second thing is, a "home" in conquerable space is only a home for as long as nobody kicks you out. because no matter how big you are, in conquerable space there's never a "static" picture where everyone is out drinking beer and gettting space rich while the neighbours mind their own business.

Conquerable space is more like dealing with the mafia than dealing with the Jones. It's politics, it's having friends or being able to hire someone to fight for you and it's fighting to keep the other guys out . And that part never stops.

New area's of conquerable space aren't necessary in my view. Ther'es lots of that already. There is literally space enough to conquer right now. Parts of nullsec are very sparsely populated as it is.

I don't want to sound mean but if you feel you're up to the task then what's stopping you from moving in somewhere like... say... A2- in Querious and just taking that space to call your own?

Because as soon as new conquerable areas are opened up then you'll be faced with that very same problem... you'll have to fight for it.... and if you can't fight for it now then you wn't be able to fight for it when new areas are opened up either.



I understand what you're saying. I just disagree with you.

Which points to the crux of what I thought you meant in your first post. We can keep on with this back-and-forth but basically you would appear to be asking for new space that can be conquered by anyone provided you're not in an alliance.

This is exactly the "hummingbird thinking pure thoughts" thing that I objected to before. I'll pass.

I'm sorry you're not able to convince me but I guess sometimes you just need to agree to disagree.

So you think that wormholes weren't necessary? Apocrypha added new kind of conquerable space, and created new communities and gameplay, very similar to what the OP is asking for.

Let's just be clear about one thing before we end this.

I didn't misunderstand you.

I disagreed with you.

... and now I'll have to leave the last word to you because I don't want to get sucked into reacting too much to this line of debate. It's really not that important.

Have fun conquering your new space and try to hold back the tears when some meany takes it away again. :)

would like to see a ship that can act like a stargate, it deploys, points in the right direction and boom your in a new system.

I would also like the imaginary future features they hype but have no plans of doing...every year.



(sorry I do need to give them credit for finally getting around to ambulation..or how we know it today...Captains Quarters with a welded shut door and a crappy FPS for playstation.)