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Issues thread for the new font on SiSi

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Cryten Jones
Advantage Inc
#221 - 2011-11-04 15:09:03 UTC
We really need to have the font scalable. I am blessed with pretty good eye sight and it the moment it's a bit "My First Space Sim" because of the size of the text.

Mainly the overview tbh, so much info in there already that this font size makes it take half the screen to be usable.

-CJ
Zarak1 Kenpach1
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#222 - 2011-11-04 17:08:53 UTC
fonts need to be available in up to at least 24 pt as well please.

users who play on a TV monitor are going to have an especially hard time with this new font
Absent Sentry
#223 - 2011-11-04 17:26:05 UTC
There is still a lack of shadows around most text, from in-space to chat windows and overview. Can you tell I have a stack of brackets expanded and have something selected? I barely can.

Side note for Overview haters: Open Overview Settings > Appearance > Use Small Font.
Party Lips
Calamitous-Intent
#224 - 2011-11-04 17:35:15 UTC
I like the font, easy to read woo.
DeepGray
Green Goo Project
#225 - 2011-11-04 18:13:09 UTC
Only issue I found with the new font is in the angular velocity column in the overview.

To reproduce the problem just add that to the overview and warp to somewhere with moving objects (NPCs or other players) on grid.
Ione Hawke
Darkness Industries
#226 - 2011-11-04 19:38:38 UTC
Font size, especially in overview, is bit to large for my taste. Can we adjust it?
Ms Stopheles
The Gullwings
#227 - 2011-11-04 20:12:59 UTC
Please let us change the font size. It is too large for my taste - especially the overview, as stated by others.
Kandreath
De Re Metallica
#228 - 2011-11-04 20:33:50 UTC
the font looks nice but.... from the sign in screen I spotted a layout issue with the 'esc' menu. The result is overlapping text.

overlapping text screen shot
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#229 - 2011-11-04 20:39:20 UTC
W i d e r F o n t W i d t h O p t i o n P l e a s e?
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#230 - 2011-11-04 21:48:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jiji Hamin
In the OK-FEM constellation in Delve the text in the pop-up about the Blood Raiders holy site clips off the side of the pop-up. presumably there are similar issues with other lore-related pop-ups at landmarks, cosmos constellations, etc throughout the game.

Also, there is an issue that the text is pure-white with no shadow in space, which can get obscured by the son or other bright objects in space. this could be difficult, for example, if slsecting a planet or asteroid belt to warp to in an emergency without using the rightclick menu or the overview.

Finally, at first I was uncertain about the font, but now I have grown to love it. My buddy and I are chatting as we wander around and look at the new nebulae, etc, and as I get used to the new font I am realizing that it is just perfect. +1.
Rion Deteisan
Forged Prophets
#231 - 2011-11-04 22:47:33 UTC
Zeros and commas are bad imho.
- 0 looks like 8. the line in the zeros makes everything look messy.
- commas look like periods.

font separation width seems far.
- F o n t s e p e r a t i o n w i d t h s e e m s f a r.

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Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#232 - 2011-11-04 23:50:36 UTC
Rion Deteisan wrote:
Zeros and commas are bad imho.
- 0 looks like 8. the line in the zeros makes everything look messy.
- commas look like periods.

font separation width seems far.
- F o n t s e p e r a t i o n w i d t h s e e m s f a r.



the cross through the zero is something that should be utilized more, not just in eve but everywhere. the commas, however, do indeed local identical to periods.
ovenproofjet
Gallifrey Industries
#233 - 2011-11-05 00:20:43 UTC
Tbh I'm not really a fan of this font, really seems to make Eve look a bit too "Comis Sansy". The old font, whilst it has it's faults at least looks slick, sci-fi like and futuristic, it "fits" Eve's look.

I can see the benefits of the new font, but it does just seem out of place somehow. I think because its a little too big size wise, it doesn't quite fit the proportions of all the windows, buttons and menus.


Rion Deteisan
Forged Prophets
#234 - 2011-11-05 08:19:21 UTC
Jiji Hamin wrote:
Rion Deteisan wrote:
Zeros and commas are bad imho.
- 0 looks like 8. the line in the zeros makes everything look messy.
- commas look like periods.

font separation width seems far.
- F o n t s e p e r a t i o n w i d t h s e e m s f a r.



the cross through the zero is something that should be utilized more, not just in eve but everywhere. the commas, however, do indeed local identical to periods.


The zeros look like old paper printing calculators form the 1980's. Its a font that is only used on the cheapest of software applications. (for some reason i can tell the difference from 0 and O in excel..) Wait a second.. i can tell the difference here in the forums, too.

commas need more exaggeration. would be nice to choose between 1,000.00 and 1.000,00 (first way is best way and makes more sense)

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Thaylon Sen
The Boondock Saints
#235 - 2011-11-05 08:51:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaylon Sen
Where's the 'Expanded Font' option gone! I cant read it properly now Sad
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#236 - 2011-11-05 09:48:41 UTC
It looks like you guys removed some of the important features from the font recently; I can no longer tell the difference between small L and capital i. They look exactly the same!

What happened?

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Tarchus
#237 - 2011-11-05 11:28:21 UTC
Hello

- The font size is too big. I am using the 10 size, but it's still too big ( Especially the System Name in upper left corner )
- The font is very disproportionate: It's taller than usual ( bigger height than width )

I'd like very much like to be able to chose from the existing font on TQ and the current font on SiSi.

My final vote:
I really don't like the current font on Sisi. Not because i am used with the font on TQ, but because i am very picky. :) I work with fonts very much, as well.
Kern Hotha
#238 - 2011-11-05 11:35:06 UTC
The font is too skinny. Some characters are indistinguishable. Links aren't underlined.

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Blue Harrier
#239 - 2011-11-05 11:54:53 UTC
I’ve tried the new fonts on both a high res 1920 * 1200 24” monitor and a 1366 * 768 15” laptop and both seem ok so far the 24” I left at 100% and the laptop I reduced to 90%.

But, the overview on both machines when set to ‘use small fonts’ although it did allow the text to fit the columns better it did make the text rather ‘thin’ and made the icon display almost vanish in the column. The square icon for a station was the worst.

For anyone needing small text in your overview, open the overview settings and find the small select box in the menu.

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Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#240 - 2011-11-05 13:44:01 UTC
Hi.

The new font looks unsophisticated, and like it was taken out of a non-OpenType font library. It looks like a font that came out of any generic MMO that has terrible fonts, and because of that it brings along that stigma of no polish and poor development time spent.

Our current font - despite some readability issues - could be tweaked to fix those. The new font makes my eyes hurt. I can't read anything, information looks jumbled and disorganized and worst of all the zeroes are a bane to read because they throw my eyes out of place.

I can't read it well. Also it looks too sharp and not round enough. I, like many others in this thread would kindly request you rework the current font. It can be done!

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