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So, Vilnius Varl has left Eve

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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-05-26 19:00:35 UTC
Whats hours for plex mean?
Haulie Berry
#22 - 2013-05-26 19:08:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Ciyrine wrote:
Whats hours for plex mean?


If your account is inactive, you can reactivate with a feature called "hours for plex" for four hours, the intent being that this allows you to go buy a PLEX and apply it to your account. It's a handy feature that makes it easy for returning veterans to resub via PLEX.

Our subject was letting his account lapse every month to get 3 "free" days of training, and then using HFP to reup. Someone noticed, and took away his HFP rights, and now he's mad because apparently he has a god-given right to ghost train.
Darth Khasei
Wavestar Business Ventures Inc.
#23 - 2013-05-26 19:58:27 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Ciyrine wrote:
Whats hours for plex mean?


If your account is inactive, you can reactivate with a feature called "hours for plex" for four hours, the intent being that this allows you to go buy a PLEX and apply it to your account. It's a handy feature that makes it easy for returning veterans to resub via PLEX.

Our subject was letting his account lapse every month to get 3 "free" days of training, and then using HFP to reup. Someone noticed, and took away his HFP rights, and now he's mad because apparently he has a god-given right to ghost train.



Respect.Cool

A game that has been out for this long is going to have a certain amount of it's subbers start to get that entitled feeling. This is one of those examples.

It's probably good that he has left since as he stated he was "looking" for a reason to quit EVE and it appears pretty clear that he was successful in "creating" said reason.

Looking forward in EVE not backward at entitled embittered eve players from the past.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-05-26 19:59:06 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Ciyrine wrote:
Whats hours for plex mean?


If your account is inactive, you can reactivate with a feature called "hours for plex" for four hours, the intent being that this allows you to go buy a PLEX and apply it to your account. It's a handy feature that makes it easy for returning veterans to resub via PLEX.

Our subject was letting his account lapse every month to get 3 "free" days of training, and then using HFP to reup. Someone noticed, and took away his HFP rights, and now he's mad because apparently he has a god-given right to ghost train.

exactly.

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Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-05-26 19:59:29 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Ciyrine wrote:
Whats hours for plex mean?


If your account is inactive, you can reactivate with a feature called "hours for plex" for four hours, the intent being that this allows you to go buy a PLEX and apply it to your account. It's a handy feature that makes it easy for returning veterans to resub via PLEX.

Our subject was letting his account lapse every month to get 3 "free" days of training, and then using HFP to reup. Someone noticed, and took away his HFP rights, and now he's mad because apparently he has a god-given right to ghost train.


Appearantly he doesn't have the god-given right hehe.
But yeah if thats the reason he is quitting, goodbye sir.


James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-05-26 20:02:10 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
i don't think i've ever had turnip soup.


Me neither. It sounds interesting enough to try.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Charlie Jacobson
#27 - 2013-05-26 22:41:42 UTC
So he quit because he couldn't keep exploiting hours for PLEX. Sounds like a whiny little cheapskate to me. Nothing of value was lost.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#28 - 2013-05-26 22:46:51 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Who?

Not empty quoting.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-05-26 23:01:17 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
He was neutral in ideas of who is best or closest to winning Eve, the game is beyond the ability of the players to judge.


"OP is correct, sadly. 0.0 is full of angsty carebears frantically clinging to their isk fountains, while barking really loud about how awesome PVPers they are."

wow he totally understands what goes on in the game and, because he doesn't want to drop $15 to reactivate, he will be highly missed from eve online o7

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Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#30 - 2013-05-26 23:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
Andski wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
He was neutral in ideas of who is best or closest to winning Eve, the game is beyond the ability of the players to judge.


"OP is correct, sadly. 0.0 is full of angsty carebears frantically clinging to their isk fountains, while barking really loud about how awesome PVPers they are."

wow he totally understands what goes on in the game and, because he doesn't want to drop $15 to reactivate, he will be highly missed from eve online o7

I like you Andski, not because you post well, rather because you so accurately represent Something Awful Forums and all Goons.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-05-27 09:13:03 UTC
Andski wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
He was neutral in ideas of who is best or closest to winning Eve, the game is beyond the ability of the players to judge.


"OP is correct, sadly. 0.0 is full of angsty carebears frantically clinging to their isk fountains, while barking really loud about how awesome PVPers they are."

wow he totally understands what goes on in the game and, because he doesn't want to drop $15 to reactivate, he will be highly missed from eve online o7

wait, wasn't all this about srs bssnss and internet spaceships?

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Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-05-27 09:25:49 UTC
One of best guys I ever meet in EVE ,and guy who knew a lot and was not afraid of anyone.

Abusing system ?Well if you have 3 days of ghost training and many people know that ,than what is to abuse there.They never said you cant do what he did ,so I really don't see what is wrong then.You cant blame people using feature that is there ,so CCP should fix the problem then accuse player for abusing.

Anyway ,from my part he will be missed.Also knowing him how long he tried to quit EVE this is maybe best way to do it.

I can only say tnx Vilnius for all help that you gave to new players in EVE .
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-05-27 12:39:10 UTC
Funny how these well-respected members of the community that only a few people actually know seem to be getting in trouble for exploits & botting.

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Rygel XVI
#34 - 2013-05-27 12:41:55 UTC
You don´t quit Eve, Eve quits you when Eve bloody well decide to do so.
It is just a matter of time before Eve will hunt down this guy once again.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-05-27 12:49:03 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Funny how these well-respected members of the community that only a few people actually know seem to be getting in trouble for exploits & botting.


well in all honesty, and from an outsider's point of view, the person in question seemed like it was, indeed, using a loophole on a, perhaps relatively harmless mechanic used for people to use PLEX in case of the sub to drop. While I do agree that, maybe some sort of "entitlement" might come with veterancy, that does not make a person exempt of every rule laid out by EULA and CCP, in which case CCP being the owner of the game, having complete and full authority on who, how and when is something in the wrong.


TL;DR: CCP looked at what he was doing and deemed him as using something that wasn't intended for, and thus restrained him from using said mechanic.

personally, CCP's reaction was quite mild.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2013-05-27 13:00:48 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Andski wrote:
Jet Burns wrote:
Cry Havoc the alliance.


Because they knew how to hot drop, roam, and fight. I had just joined and trained to Logistic 5 when they disbanded. I haven't left although there is no activity at all just because I don't want to drop the flag. Sometimes still I get a random salute in local. I miss the boys.


Why would you sit in a dead alliance while actually subscribed and playing


Because they are an honorable alliance of friends and gamers as opposed to a group that looks for the cheat codes 2 days after they start playing.


awww that was mean. You'll make the Goonie cry. Big smile

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#37 - 2013-05-27 13:29:30 UTC
Andski wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
He was neutral in ideas of who is best or closest to winning Eve, the game is beyond the ability of the players to judge.


"OP is correct, sadly. 0.0 is full of angsty carebears frantically clinging to their isk fountains, while barking really loud about how awesome PVPers they are."

wow he totally understands what goes on in the game and, because he doesn't want to drop $15 to reactivate, he will be highly missed from eve online o7


Sounds like he was the angsty one here.

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#38 - 2013-05-27 14:30:20 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
i don't think i've ever had turnip soup.



Prep Time: 10 minutes

Cook Time: 20 minutes

Total Time: 30 minutes

Ingredients:

1 lb white turnips (about 4 medium turnips)
1 medium Russet (or other starchy) potato
2 Tbsp unsalted butter
1 medium onion, peeled and roughly chopped
1 clove garlic, peeled and crushed
½ cup dry white wine
1 qt vegetable broth or stock
Kosher salt, to taste
Ground white pepper, to taste
Preparation:

Cut turnips into (roughly) same-sized pieces, about ½ inch to 1 inch thick, depending on diameter. Don't worry about precision — the soup is going to be puréed anyway. We just want the pieces to be of uniform size so that they cook evenly.

Peel the potato and cut it into pieces about the same size as the turnips.

In a heavy-bottomed soup pot, heat the butter over a low-to-medium heat.

Add the onion, garlic and turnips and cook for 2-3 minutes or until the onion is slightly translucent, stirring more or less continuously.

Add the wine and cook for another minute or two or until the wine seems to have reduced by about half.

Add the stock and the potato. Increase the heat to medium-high and bring to a boil. Then lower the heat and simmer for 15 minutes or until the turnips and potatoes are soft enough that they can easily be pierced with a knife. Don't let them get mushy, though.

Remove from heat and purée in a blender, working in batches if necessary.

Tip: Use care when processing hot items in a blender as the hot steam can sometimes blow the blender lid off. Start on a slow speed with the lid slightly ajar to vent any steam, then seal the lid and increase the blending speed.

Return puréed soup to pot and bring to a simmer again, adding more broth or stock to adjust the thickness if necessary.

Season to taste with Kosher salt and white pepper.

Garnish with a toasted crouton and serve right away.
Makes about 1½ quarts (6 8-oz. servings) of soup.

Optional:
Stir ¼ cup hot cream into the soup just before serving.
Note: The soup can be thickened with rice instead of potato. Just substitute about 1/3 cup of uncooked rice for the potato, and simmer the soup until the rice is soft.

Delicious.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#39 - 2013-05-27 15:42:21 UTC
Darth Khasei wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
Ciyrine wrote:
Whats hours for plex mean?


If your account is inactive, you can reactivate with a feature called "hours for plex" for four hours, the intent being that this allows you to go buy a PLEX and apply it to your account. It's a handy feature that makes it easy for returning veterans to resub via PLEX.

Our subject was letting his account lapse every month to get 3 "free" days of training, and then using HFP to reup. Someone noticed, and took away his HFP rights, and now he's mad because apparently he has a god-given right to ghost train.



Respect.Cool

A game that has been out for this long is going to have a certain amount of it's subbers start to get that entitled feeling. This is one of those examples.

It's probably good that he has left since as he stated he was "looking" for a reason to quit EVE and it appears pretty clear that he was successful in "creating" said reason.

Looking forward in EVE not backward at entitled embittered eve players from the past.


I don't know if entitlement really plays in. EVE has always been about cutting corners. I don't blame the player base for it. I blame the company that fosters it. Everything about this game is about Min/Max efficiency.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-05-27 16:07:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
Haulie Berry wrote:
Ciyrine wrote:
Whats hours for plex mean?


If your account is inactive, you can reactivate with a feature called "hours for plex" for four hours, the intent being that this allows you to go buy a PLEX and apply it to your account. It's a handy feature that makes it easy for returning veterans to resub via PLEX.

Our subject was letting his account lapse every month to get 3 "free" days of training, and then using HFP to reup. Someone noticed, and took away his HFP rights, and now he's mad because apparently he has a god-given right to ghost train.



So that's what he was doing, the outcome is not surprising then.


They did away with ghost training in the past as people used to unsubscribe whilst training long skills then re-subscribe once the skill had completed.

Edit: For those that don't know when you unsubscribed (some years back now) your current skill kept training until it completed, but CCP shortened it to stop ghost training as people would train for a month or two without subscribing to the game.