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Tibus Heth on his way out ?
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Liana Fehrnah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-05-26 07:39:53 UTC
With all the news recently of Tibus Heth (mostly negative) is he on his way our ?
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-26 18:42:05 UTC
If CCP takes this the way they have been taking lore recently, then that will be decided by capsuleers.

I imagine a military coup where players chose to either back Heth's regime, or kick him out.

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#3 - 2013-05-26 20:48:54 UTC
Heth has backers?

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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-27 08:30:02 UTC
With the right rewards, he has many.

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The8roker
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-06-03 12:53:27 UTC
Tibus has many backers and he will remain in power for as long as he is needed.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#6 - 2013-06-07 10:33:38 UTC
As much as I enjoy the character (a flawed personality is truly the most interesting), Heth is almost certainly on the way out. Almost nobody outside of the Caldari Empire supports him and at least half of those in Caldari space despise him. His position is untenable.

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Jarac Raasen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-07 12:30:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarac Raasen
You'd think Heth wouldn't be hated by his own people after he took back Caldari Prime. Then again, since he took like 90% of th Caldari fleet to Caldari Prime, he probably twisted a lot of arms to get it done. Loved by the commoners, but hated by anyone who sees him as a political threat to their own power (no doubt a few corps).

Then again, he's gonna lose everything after the disaster at Caldari Prime with that Titan. He'll lose the people's support too. Especially when people find out about the particulars of that incident.
Niko medes
Freeman Technologies
#8 - 2013-06-07 18:34:05 UTC
Definitely on his way out, Caldari Prime was a disaster.
Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-06-07 19:24:22 UTC
So I chose the bloodline of a race with more trouble than an elephant on rollerskates? This could get interesting.

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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#10 - 2013-06-08 18:31:22 UTC
Untanas Volmyr wrote:
So I chose the bloodline of a race with more trouble than an elephant on rollerskates? This could get interesting.

None of the major races in the cluster is without its issues. Competition has always been the way of the Caldari; it part of what makes them interesting.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-06-08 19:15:07 UTC
while he's respected and adored by some population inside the state, he's going practically by more personal motives than for the good of the state itself, just look what happens with Kaalakiota, the megacorp is selling assets in order to cover its support during the Caldari Prime incident. he put in danger a whole megacorporation just for a stupid movement, and he lost.

he's gonna get down very soon, the Caldari State must keep as descentralized as possible, Heth is a ******* dictator and that goes against the idea of the state.
Liana Fehrnah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-06-12 08:40:43 UTC
wel with the new lore just now i think i was right ?
Axel Kurki
Aseyakone
#13 - 2013-06-12 09:29:24 UTC
The first sign of Heth being on the way out was the murder of Janus Bravour, in 2008. Since then, it hasn't been the question if he'll be gone, but when he'll be gone.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-06-12 17:18:52 UTC
i would have liked to see this guy out of the political place, and be replaced by the CEO of Ishukone, its a shame that the guy got killed several years ago...i think it was with the events of empyrean age?, the nyx ramming in the caldari station or something
Saana Nupuunen
Aseyakone
#15 - 2013-06-13 21:33:11 UTC
I, for one will be happy of a possible return to a multifacetuous model. The State is a confederation of corporate states with a few common offices. It does not need a president. I find it kind of silly that some people think even OOC that Heth is a head-of-state. He isn't, and unless mandated to do so by a majority vote of the CEOs of the eight largest megacorps, he is "just" a megacorporate CEO who has admittedly made very good deals with other megas to allow him coordinate strategic resources.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-06-13 23:29:33 UTC
Saana Nupuunen wrote:
I, for one will be happy of a possible return to a multifacetuous model. The State is a confederation of corporate states with a few common offices. It does not need a president. I find it kind of silly that some people think even OOC that Heth is a head-of-state. He isn't, and unless mandated to do so by a majority vote of the CEOs of the eight largest megacorps, he is "just" a megacorporate CEO who has admittedly made very good deals with other megas to allow him coordinate strategic resources.


with the last announcements made by him, looks like he intends to centralize the power of the megacorporations under his mandate, basically making the megacorps state property instead of being autonomous entities. outrageous!
Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#17 - 2013-06-13 23:38:49 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
with the last announcements made by him, looks like he intends to centralize the power of the megacorporations under his mandate, basically making the megacorps state property instead of being autonomous entities. outrageous!

Considering his position now, it seems unlikely anything close will actually happen.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-06-13 23:42:33 UTC
of course
Eija-Riitta Veitonen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-06-15 00:51:13 UTC
And it's on.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-06-15 02:36:47 UTC
it was meant to happen sooner or later.....
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