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torpedo buff?
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Jureth22
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-05-24 17:00:30 UTC
torpedo buff?anytime soon?with oddysey?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-05-24 17:14:26 UTC
Because torpedos finally being effected by the Guided Missile Precision skill just wasnt enough.....

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
brinelan
#3 - 2013-05-24 17:33:53 UTC
They haven't posted anything about changing them so.. doubtful
Jureth22
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2013-05-24 17:56:21 UTC
cruise > torpedoes.torpedoes need to buff
Khan Farshatok
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#5 - 2013-05-24 17:57:58 UTC
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....
Jureth22
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-05-25 12:07:51 UTC
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....


its not a complain,more like a statement/question
Pan Dora
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-25 12:51:28 UTC
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....


confirmed: no change to torpedoes can be coupled with a bomber bonus adjustment.

-CCP would boost ECM so it also block the ability of buthurt posting.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#8 - 2013-05-25 13:15:16 UTC
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....

If anything torpedoes need range buff, everything else can stay the same. It wont be that game-breaking if torpedoes got 20-25% buff to their base range.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Farrell Jay
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-05-25 13:24:10 UTC
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....


Because DPS is the only thing that matters right?
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-05-25 13:28:54 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....

If anything torpedoes need range buff, everything else can stay the same. It wont be that game-breaking if torpedoes got 20-25% buff to their base range.



it may or may not be game breaking. With the TE changes ccp has to see how sr guns play out once on the server. Cries of because of raven would grow quick if they are gimped range wise and here come the torp raven swarms torping from 50 kms.

Also as mentioned above...bombers. YOU don't want max skill bombers doing CN ammo damage form even more range. Currently you want the jav torps thrown at you if they snipe, they hurt less.
Mole Guy
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#11 - 2013-05-25 13:31:22 UTC
the only thing about torps that need buffed is the range.

having the range of a medium weapon is kinda low... 50% range bonus wouldnt make THAT big a difference except to the ships that use them.
with the new geddon changes, we can neut to 40k but once we do kill their cap, itll take us 15 minutes to get over to them and torpedo them to death.

and with the new navy phoon, itll be a BEAST (within 12k)...

give a little range and call it a day..
Mole Guy
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#12 - 2013-05-25 13:32:40 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....

If anything torpedoes need range buff, everything else can stay the same. It wont be that game-breaking if torpedoes got 20-25% buff to their base range.



it may or may not be game breaking. With the TE changes ccp has to see how sr guns play out once on the server. Cries of because of raven would grow quick if they are gimped range wise and here come the torp raven swarms torping from 50 kms.

Also as mentioned above...bombers. YOU don't want max skill bombers doing CN ammo damage form even more range. Currently you want the jav torps thrown at you if they snipe, they hurt less.



imo, if bombers are that OP, nerf bombers a lil so the rest of the torp wielding world can breathe...
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#13 - 2013-05-25 13:39:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Zan Shiro wrote:
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....

If anything torpedoes need range buff, everything else can stay the same. It wont be that game-breaking if torpedoes got 20-25% buff to their base range.



it may or may not be game breaking. With the TE changes ccp has to see how sr guns play out once on the server. Cries of because of raven would grow quick if they are gimped range wise and here come the torp raven swarms torping from 50 kms.

Also as mentioned above...bombers. YOU don't want max skill bombers doing CN ammo damage form even more range. Currently you want the jav torps thrown at you if they snipe, they hurt less.

Right now torpedoes are useless on any ship without range bonus, so that range bonus becomes mandatory (as well as range rigs) to make torpedoes viable. if you are concerned about bombers - their range bonus (both bonuses) could be reduced a bit (halved?) then.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-05-25 13:55:58 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Zan Shiro wrote:
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....

If anything torpedoes need range buff, everything else can stay the same. It wont be that game-breaking if torpedoes got 20-25% buff to their base range.



it may or may not be game breaking. With the TE changes ccp has to see how sr guns play out once on the server. Cries of because of raven would grow quick if they are gimped range wise and here come the torp raven swarms torping from 50 kms.

Also as mentioned above...bombers. YOU don't want max skill bombers doing CN ammo damage form even more range. Currently you want the jav torps thrown at you if they snipe, they hurt less.

Right now torpedoes are useless on any ship without range bonus, so that range bonus becomes mandatory (as well as range rigs) to make torpedoes viable. if you are concerned about bombers - their range bonus could be reduced a bit (halved?) then.



okay...since you have to give a bonus to take way a bonus, what are the new bomber bonuses you have in mind. If taking away my 20% per frig bonus to torp velocity or reducing it what do I get back?

Like someone said above torp balance has the issues that they work quite well on 1 class of ship(bombers), 2 technically if you include marauder with the golem.
Khan Farshatok
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#15 - 2013-05-25 14:52:34 UTC
Mole Guy wrote:



imo, if bombers are that OP, nerf bombers a lil so the rest of the torp wielding world can breathe...



bombers are infact very op if you have amazing skills. my manticor can do 650 dps. however people with less training and SP can barely pull 250. also at current im able to hit at 50km out with rage without any implants. buffing torps would only make bombers knig for killing caps or structures.
Khan Farshatok
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#16 - 2013-05-25 14:56:48 UTC
also what a lot of you dont know since you havent been in the game for long is that torpedoes used to have the same ranges as cruise missiles. they nerfed the hell out of this because of mission runners. it made caldari the king of running missions. they did it to balance out the abilities of each races to run missions equally. so in short, they wont do it.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#17 - 2013-05-25 15:05:38 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Because torpedos finally being effected by the Guided Missile Precision skill just wasnt enough.....


nope... they need range! in the form of more flight time...



then


they


are


fixed.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#18 - 2013-05-25 15:06:37 UTC
Khan Farshatok wrote:
yeah lets buff torpedos, i want my bomber to do 1000 dps instead of 650. WOOT........

-10 vote, why cant people think long and hard before complaining about something....



well if you boost torps then you reduce the bonus on sb... duh

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