EVE General Discussion

Ok so I have joined a PvP corp, although a small one, we do manage to have fun..

although I seem to be the odd one out (so it feels)

It seems everyone has at least a T2 ship, and the best I have is a corax fitted with half and half T1/T2 modules. (mostly T2 defensive, and T1 Offensive)

But anyway I feel so useless. I mean, in fleet it is alright because I am fulfilling the quick tackle role, and my corpmates can come in and lay on the DPS...

But then I wanted to go on a lil solo roam when no one else was on (in a Kestrel).. So, not knowing too much about null, I look at the map and find a route thru some less populated space, and I can manage to get into null alright without getting trapped in a bubble, but thats about all I can manage to do.. I looked around for something that I could fight, coming to the conclusion that I am pretty much at the bottom of the food chain. And shortly after, I come across a Sabre camping a gate i just came thru. He obviously made short work of me..


Is a fleet pretty much my only viable option for my sucess in low/null? is there any way I can sucessfully solo pvp in a ship that won't cost me an arm and a leg to loose?


I'm not afraid of dieing or loosing a ship, its just that I don't want to throw away my isk


But then again, I don't wanna be stuck in high sec like another mission drone. Cause that is what I am starting to feel like.. Doing mission after mission after mission.. Although I did try some exploration today and found a 270 m deadspace module, which made me VERY happy, but I also want to get into some nullsec ops.

I am also wary of low sec.

I have spent a lot of time increasing my standings to the 2.3 that it is now, so I do not agro in low sec until someone agros me. even then I try to run first. But it seems everyone is bloodthirsty for an easy kill that I don't even really have a chance to learn, cause I am already dead.


So is null/low sec just for people with t2/t3 ships to prey on the noob frigs, or is there actually somewhere I could go to maybe learn some 1v1 on a more respectable level?

Thanks :)

Go to faction warfare areas and look for/wait inside novice and small beacons. They only let frigs and destroyers in. The sec status loss is small if you don't pod, and you can buy it back with tags soon anyway.

Brave Newbies.

I hear alot of good things from their members.

This is the 20th "I'm new and I love the game where should I go?" thread I have seen in the past 2 weeks. I think all you guys are Awoxers. You want to learn how to play then go to lowsec and learn evasion, spend a year or 2 there to prove that you are not an Awox alt, then apply to a null corp. By that time you will know the right one.

Gluck.

The lesson here is that 0.0 pvp is pretty damn terrible, and you should probably go back to empire to do wars, or maybe join a decent wormhole outfit instead. Low-sec might also become an option soon.

Also, what the Goon said: solo pvp, especially in 0.0, has been dead for ages. I'm sure someone will pipe in with a "but person [x] does it really well, see!? Just look at *youtube links*." An exception to the rule doesn't invalidate the rule. Besides, those people have their own tricks up their sleeve that usually involve their pvp not being as solo as they make it sound. Probably one of the last methods of getting solo fights is through high-sec wars.

And this may be good for players like you or myself, but the average guy will unsub and go play some CoD instead. I'll give you a 9/10 for that last line, though.

People do their best to avoid being in a 1v1 situation, though. If someone were to attack you, then you would link their name and a fleet invite in your intel channel in the hopes that others would join you in killing the guy who shot at you before he is able to kill you. People are risk averse, is what I'm saying. 1v1 things can and do happen, in the form of arranged duels or solo ganks of AFK ratters, but the latter is something people try to avoid and the former is suspect. You can get some bites by offering a 1v1 duel in one of the major Empire systems, and some people will even honor the duels; but, for the most part if you are in a 1v1 fight then at least one of the parties is trying not to be.

You only see the game this way because you are part of a large, organozed, group. Fighting solo is so much slower than fleet combat most people don't even see it, but it is there. Its just a completely different tempo and play-style, almost non-compatible with alliance based characters.

Well I hate games like CoD.... Actually earlier today I flipped on world of tanks for a half hour and got bored outta my skull within about 3-4 matches.. I had to come back to eve.. So much more interesting. And I feel like im actually building something in eve, not just stuck in repeat.


But thanks for the replies they do give me a better understanding on how the harsh universe of null operates.

tbh, I don't think I have enough skills to be in null alone. I was just checking out some of the rats in the belts and even they are 1.5 mil each, which I doubt I would be able to take with my drake, let alone a lil frig, or destroyer.

So i guess I will have to stay out of null when im alone :) its hard now tho :p it feels like im missing all the good stuff :p

Since you were in BNI, this should click for you. It's a great way to get 1v1 in cheap ships. Go to Raha and fight against BNI, but don't try to fight their blob. Instead, issue duel requests to other frigates and fight them on gates or station. Or attack legal targets while on station or gates...as long as they don't have many heavy ships or logis on the scene, the rest of them won't be able to blob you (much). You can even engage small stuff at celestials and kill it before the blob arrives.

Another option, as mentioned, is to anchor a drag or stop bubble in a 0.0 system and use it to carefully select your targets. Hang out >150 km off the bubble. When a single hostile comes in from the far gate and appears on long range D-scan, decide if you have a chance of killing him. If so, immediately warp down to the bubble before he lands and engage him at your optimal. This can be a bit of a waiting game, however. First, you need to wait for a viable target. Second, most pilots traveling in 0.0 won't warp directly gate-to-gate and therefore won't land in your bubble. But some will...