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I got bored of highsec but I'm afraid to go to null

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#81 - 2013-05-23 16:32:55 UTC
Le Badass wrote:
I started out in NPC null with a stealth bomber and a condor along with assorted modules and bubbles.
If you want to start totally from scratch, find a system near medical facilites (for your clone when you die), refinery and production slots.
Then, fly in a mining venture (will also be handy for slipping through gatecamps on the way) with some basic BPOs in the hold.
Although pretty crappy compared to everything else, you can mine minerals and recycle dropped modules to build your own frigs and so on.
The BPOs will cost you anywhere from 5-20M depending on what you choose to bring.

And yes, I know that a meta 0 slasher suxxorz, but an industrial or pod trapped in a bubble WILL die eventually.
When you lose your meta 0 frig, it won't really matter.

Just my 2 cents.

EDIT:
You can probe down mag sites in null, then speed tank most of the rats while you hack the cans. Even if you don't get them all, before the incoming DPS is too much, you can still make a fair amount, so that's a nice side business when you find one.




Don't be so sure about that last part. I used to do that in wormholes, but the last time I was in deep null I got a message that I cannot access the containers "while they are still being defended".

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Neddy Fox
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#82 - 2013-05-23 17:39:16 UTC
It depends on the sites. Some cans can be hacked while NPC's are around, some are not. Don't ask me which tho, it's been years since I ran magnos :)
Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
#83 - 2013-05-23 17:44:22 UTC
You need to lose your fear of loss in the game until it's like playing mario bros with unlimited lives. The usual adage is 'don't fly ships you can't afford to lose', but it should read 'don't fly ships you can't afford to lose by the bucketload'.

Go set up 100 frigs and enjoy the game. You only lose if you don't go out, die ten times, and come back better next time.
Spurty
#84 - 2013-05-23 18:42:13 UTC
Worm holes can be your best chance an getting somewhere you never dreamed of going to.

They allow you to bypass the [dead as a donkey] gate camps at the high sec / low sec entry points.

Will never get over your fear of loss if you don't start losing stuff.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

Beltze Sorgin
BSSLD Explorations
#85 - 2013-05-23 21:28:09 UTC
I've spent a fair bit of time in null & once you get there (past the gatecamps) & get to know the locals it's friendlier than low sec. As others have said "it's only pixels." You'll have a few heart stopping moments but you'll enjoy yaself.
Neddy Fox
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#86 - 2013-05-24 09:27:31 UTC
This is why we are in nullsec : One of the biggest fights this year.

The fight over 1-smeb
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#87 - 2013-05-24 09:33:57 UTC
Adam Dimaloun wrote:
So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)

I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win)
I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well

So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with?
Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well

I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics

o/


If anything, I have had significantly less time commitment since I moved to null.

I log on when I want to, and ISK flows easily, so actually getting enough to have fun takes no time at all (and in fact is mostly passive in my case).
Valari Nala Zena
Perkone
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-05-24 09:49:13 UTC
Simply put, EVE isn't a solo game, it would be boring and you would have quit long ago.
Solo PvP will probably never be for you, but big fleet pvp can be fun, Eve likes blobs anyway and isn't that scary.

If you are a complete nullsec drone you are in the wrong alliance/corp, there are plenty of aliances out there that doesn't
require you to constantly join fleets, but still join them whenever the f you want.

What you need is people to do stuff with, doesn't have to be PvP all the time, can be PvE, mining, wormhole stuff,
industry stuff, hauling, exploring, probing name it, i like variety myself.

You simply need to find a corp that has a relaxed atmosphere, fairly large and active.
Put some effort in socializing, make friends and eventually, things that are boring will suddenly be more interesting.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2013-05-24 10:44:52 UTC
I suspect a lot of people in eve have this or similar problems. This thread is full of great advice but i would like to add a few things.
The most important aspect of eve is finding out what aspects of it you enjoy. For some this is scamming, griefing, stealing.
For some it is exploration. For some it is low sec piracy or faction warfare. Some people like solo PVP, some like small gangs, some like huge epic fleet battles.
The other crucial aspect is finding a corp that is active, contains people that you enjoy hanging out with and enjoy similar aspects of EVE.
In null sec the propagande/ agenda of the alliance you will be joining is also of consideration. Much of null sec is driven by player created storyline politics. It is worth finding out a bit about this before you sign up,

Having given this as a short outline i wanted to tell you a bit about my eve journey so far and to show people that access to null is easier than you think it is.

My "main" has 11 million SP and does exploration. As i do it solo i made this account as a scout for low sec gates and to watch wormhole exits for me. The corp i was in got war dec'd and i was very frustrated that everyone went to ground and refused to try and make a fleet to fight. I decided then and there i needed to learn to PVP.
I looked around for a bit and found a PVP academy belonging to The Manson Family. I joined up with this char and started pvping in frigs /destroyers in low sec while they taught us the basics and took us on some null sec roams. It was supremely fun and my "main" turned into just a source of isk to fund this new pvp habit of mine Smile.
Enthusiasm fo running the academy sadly wavered and it is now defunct but a few of us were invited to join Manson itself and i duely moved to our nullsec base.
Since then I have been roaming with various members of The Retirement club in fleets small and large. We mainly fight Goons and their allies. It has been fantasic fun and the thrill of engaging a far more powerful fleet whilst praying that your fleet commanders have a trick up their sleeve is immense.
The mad dashes accross a dozen or so hostile systems to reach an enemy carrier pinned down so we can kill it before it's own help arrives is thrilling.
Taking small fleets into the heart of enemy territory and performing quick hit and run strikes on their shiping before breaking off to a safe spot before they can muster overwhelming forces is just amazing.

TL;DR
null sec pvp is varied and fun. Join a null sec corp asap and try it for yourself.
Beware of people that require fees to apply.
Hit me up in game to ask more questions or to apply to Manson Family.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Eko Fromtv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2013-05-24 10:52:31 UTC
Hey OP I was just like you once. Just get a bunch of frigs and destroyers (50 of each?) and go fight people. You will lose them all, but you won't care, because they are cheap and more importantly you will lose your fear/risk aversion as well.

(Ice) Miner for life.

Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#91 - 2013-05-24 11:34:38 UTC
Adam Dimaloun wrote:
So far one of the best posts I've ever seen :D (not because I posted it) because of all this awesome info you guys put

I don't care about losing ships or pods anymore, some stuff you put here are awesome, I'll see how it work out for me in the WH not to mention I already have access to 0.0 from it, so I might put my stuff in 0.0 and live between those 2


also consider anchoring a giant secure container in your wh at a safe in the system. that way you can stash ammo, nanite repair paste and loot while you wait for the static to connect close to your stuffs. afaik they're virtually impossible to locate.

I'm still trying to figure this out for myself but C2 seem the best for wh 'travel' as they can have two statics, giving opportunities to bridge k-space though a chain of wormholes.

forums.  serious business.

Succubus with Dreads
Doomheim
#92 - 2013-05-24 14:58:49 UTC
Adam Dimaloun wrote:
So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)

I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win)
I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well

So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with?
Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well

I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics

o/



Find a null sec alliance that is newbro friendly. (There are several) They will help you get used to living in null and you will have alot more fun because of it.

Playing eve just in high sec by yourself running missions is bad.