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[news] CEP to question Executive Officer Mininela Erinen under oath
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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2013-05-23 17:12:10 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/cep-to-question-executive-officer-mininela-erinen-under-oath/

"The Executive Officer will appear before the tribunal on the morning of May 25th. According to the CEP, the questions will revolve around 'Admiral Yanala's orders on the day of the Battle for Caldari Prime, her subsequent observance or refusal of those orders, whether the chain of command was properly followed in issuing the orders, the technical status of the cloning facility in which the Admiral was to have cloned, and the issues surrounding her clone's failure to properly activate.'"

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#2 - 2013-05-23 17:16:32 UTC
This seems like a major step in the investigation. Hopefully, though, the tribunal will recognize that a technical failure of Yanala-haani's cloning bay is unlikely to be a matter to lay at Erinen-haani's feet, unless she was aware of lapses that she made no effort to correct.

Still, if this tribunal is public, then we will likely get answers to many of the questions posed in this forum. Hopefully, clarity will lay many of the conspiracy theories to rest.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#3 - 2013-05-23 17:19:30 UTC
Until another cease and desist order from Heth is handed to them from a CPD spook.

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-23 17:22:25 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Until another cease and desist order from Heth is handed to them from a CPD spook.


To be honest, if he tried the same thing in this instance, I think they would (in no polite manner) tell him to bugger off.

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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-23 17:25:34 UTC
It's a good thing no one has ever lied under oath.

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#6 - 2013-05-23 17:35:25 UTC
"She will testify under oath, utilizing advanced stress gauges, facial analysis, and military linguistic algorithms to appraise the factuality of her statements."

If she's lying, she'd better be a damned good one.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#7 - 2013-05-23 17:37:07 UTC
Ms. Vitalia; which is why the CEP is employing the technology it is to verify Erinen-haani's testimony.

Anslo; the CPD has certainly intervened in cases before, but I can't imagine why they would in this case. There's nothing for them to gain, and they would surely be grossly overstepping their bounds if they attempted to intervene in a CEP tribunal of such great importance.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#8 - 2013-05-23 17:40:30 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Anslo; the CPD has certainly intervened in cases before, but I can't imagine why they would in this case. There's nothing for them to gain, and they would surely be grossly overstepping their bounds if they attempted to intervene in a CEP tribunal of such great importance.


Eh, now that you mention it, the CPD and Heth wouldn't gain much would they? They'd actually loose face if they did it again with THIS case. But the lying thing could be an issue. Hopefully they check her for implants, both bio and mecha, to ensure she isn't modified to be a better liar. Same with the equipment in terms of being tampered. Hopefully it'll be newly constructed and provided by a third party.

I don't know why the Officer would lie, but still...better safe than sorry.

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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-05-23 17:48:34 UTC
So they are pulling out the fancy tools for this questioning? Seems a bit too much, but I guess if you are going to do it, you better do it right, first time.

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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-05-23 17:48:42 UTC
And the public is willing to trust the veracity of this monitoring 'equipment' ?

A related concept to also consider with this equipment:

It's not a lie if the person speaking it believes it to be true.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2013-05-23 17:53:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
While the CEP has a natural and justifiable interest in verifying Erinen-haani's testimony, it would be a terrible mark against Erinen-haani's character if she failed to do her duty: provide honest, thorough, and detailed testimony to the State and its citizens about the events surrounding the Caldari Prime incident.

We may theorize all we like about lies under oath, or CPD involvement, but these theories still rest in the shadow of the imagined conspiracies that have been put forth on this forum.

Perhaps we all may do better to simply wait for the tribunal, instead of constructing a web of theories that will bias us against the proceedings.

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Nicolas Merovech
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-05-23 18:21:08 UTC
Question under oath = interrogation.

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Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
#13 - 2013-05-23 18:25:34 UTC
I am confident that Executive Officer Mininela Erinen will not wish to dishonour the memory of Admiral Yanala and the integrity of the Caldari Navy by doing anything other than giving full and frank testimony as to the events in question.

I await the outcome of this questioning by the CEP and urge them to leave no stone unturned in their intent to establish the truth of the matter.

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Edaine Numenor
Numenor Benevolent Holdings
#14 - 2013-05-23 18:27:45 UTC
I do hope adequate security is being provided for Executive Officer Mininela Erinen. I fear for her safety.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#15 - 2013-05-23 18:38:05 UTC
Edaine Numenor wrote:
I do hope adequate security is being provided for Executive Officer Mininela Erinen. I fear for her safety.


That's actually a good point. Is she under protective custody? Who's guarding her? And by guard, I don't mean imprison. I mean guard and make sure she's safe and sound (and untouched) for the trial.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2013-05-23 18:42:08 UTC
Erinen-haani is the highest figure in the Caldari Navy. Security in her office and at her residence is likely considerable.

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Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#17 - 2013-05-23 18:56:55 UTC
Seems the CEP aren't taking any risks on this one, hopefully people will let people get on with the investigation without constant criticism of their methods and lack of public knowledge this time.

Though personally I believe unless the Executive Officer is already in protective custody, they already gave out more details than they should.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#18 - 2013-05-23 18:58:26 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Seems the CEP aren't taking any risks on this one, hopefully people will let people get on with the investigation without constant criticism of their methods and lack of public knowledge this time.


Because bringing the Minmatar incident into this is clearly needed.

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#19 - 2013-05-23 19:07:55 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
And the public is willing to trust the veracity of this monitoring 'equipment' ?

A related concept to also consider with this equipment:

It's not a lie if the person speaking it believes it to be true.

Possibly.

However, the Chief Executive Panel is lead by the megacorps, and I don't see what they would have to gain from inaccurate results in the testimony.

While I only know her from reputation, Mininela Erinen has never struck me as incompetent. You don't become the head of the Caldari Navy if you don't know what's going on.

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Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#20 - 2013-05-23 19:15:35 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Seems the CEP aren't taking any risks on this one, hopefully people will let people get on with the investigation without constant criticism of their methods and lack of public knowledge this time.


Because bringing the Minmatar incident into this is clearly needed.


Oh I'm just making a general point, too many nosey people thinking they're special snowflakes across the board.

I'm just hoping we don't get cries of a coverup every five ******* minutes we don't hear something. Last thing we need is more pointless hysteria and conspiracy theories.

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