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New nebulae on the test server. Please give us your feedback.

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Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
#21 - 2011-11-04 15:59:56 UTC
First I want to say this is awesome! The visuals are just stunning!

I fly around Verge Vendor, Genesis, Sinq Lasion, Placid, and Essence. A few things I noticed about Verge Vendor. It is super bright compared to the rest. In every system you seem to be engulfed in the Nebula. I didn't get this feeling from the other regions I visited. There was also no difference in brightness between High and Low sec in Verge Vendor. In fact most of the high sec in the other regions appeared darker than Verge Vendor low sec.

Is it possible to add the nebulae to the star map? I would like to get a idea of where each one is.
Crexa
Ion Industrials
#22 - 2011-11-04 16:07:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Crexa
I like that you want to adjust the backgrounds, but somethings just shouldn't be realistic. As it is, my ship (amarr) is now a black speck on a black background, (Kamio, Halaima, Rens systems). Which is to say, I cannot see it. Looks much better in in Niarja, Amarr, etc. Does it matter which racial ship I use in a system? Meaning does a caldari ship look better in caldari space? You may need to bump the light level up in systems that are not engulfed in nebula. As it is right now, the backgrounds look like a bad astronomy app for the Ipad if its not an engulfed system.

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Reeno Coleman
#23 - 2011-11-04 16:17:39 UTC
Good Job!

Still, the reason the nebulae look still so much like wallpapers is that they do not change based on the suns glare.

OK. realism aside, cause we know, nebulae are pitch black and only visible with hours of lighting time per image....

The visibility of the background (thats nebulae and stars) should change on the fact whether you look towards the sun or not. Looking directly at the sun, while the suns glare is very pretty, should at the same time fade out the background, maybe not completely, which would be realistic, but at least a little.
Vegare
Bitslix
Lolsec Fockel
#24 - 2011-11-04 16:22:15 UTC
mhh i posted in the wrong thread it seems

Quote:
Just checked out those nebulea on Sisi.Cool

Very nice looking! Thumbs up. Great graphics.


However, you asked for feedback, so here is what came to my mind:

- All Stars seem to be infront of the nebulae. This becomes apparent at parts of a nebula where a shadow is cast onto it by itself, or where the dust is very thick. The light of stars behind those nebulae should not cut through those parts, exactly like it works with the dark side of planets. (bug?)

- When zooming into a phenomenon the resolution quickly becomes too low. (Lots of people will want to zoom into them) However, you already mentioned a high resolution pack.

- The main issue: Jumps between regions often seem uncoherent regarding the real distances (those indicated by the star map) compared to the change of position in space according to the nebulea.

For example: If your traveling through Devoid direction Domain you can see the brown dust cloud (which is basically sourrounding Domain) looming infront of you for like 10 jumps and lots of lightyears of travel. The jump into Domain is just a very short one, however now you're all of a sudden right inside the cloud.
So you get a feeling of movement and travel because the "landscape" changes now and then, but there is no way to orientate yourself or achieve a reasonable feeling of location and distance. This is a pitty because it renders the whole "landscape idea" relatively mood and degrades the new nebulea to just a new pretty background.

--> One cube map per region is not enough. However, I do see that it won't be possible to create individual cube maps for each constellation by hand in a reasonable amount of time :(

Anyways, great work!

o/
vegare

Desmont McCallock
#25 - 2011-11-04 16:23:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Desmont McCallock
WOW!
They gave me chills.
Just pure awesomeness.
Art department FTW.

Edit: Does this should look like this? http://eve-files.com/dl/249019
Goodluvins
Shadowlight Society
#26 - 2011-11-04 16:30:00 UTC
Quote:
• How do you feel about the difference in high security, low security and null sec space?


How about you give WHs some artistic love, too? *grumble...*


Temuken Radzu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-11-04 16:37:28 UTC
My reaction: Awsomenesss
Lord Wamphyri
Starside Lost
#28 - 2011-11-04 16:43:22 UTC
I just had to come and add my voice to this.

CCP.. the new nebulae are stunning.

A job very well done so kudos to all involved in bringing this to life.

Also, slightly off topic I know and not really fotm, the new CQ's are also excellent. It kinda makes me sad that Incarna is on the back burner but I understand the reasons totally.

I'm very much looking forward to the winter expansion!

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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
#29 - 2011-11-04 16:45:54 UTC
New Nebulae(s) + Shadow fix = ♥♥♥♥♥♥

If you guys finish the V3 project after this, Faping will be at an all time high!!!!

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Kabaos
Fulgur lumene
#30 - 2011-11-04 16:48:39 UTC
Hi. yes good but when you zoom nebulae it have a big pixels

http://s52.radikal.ru/i136/1111/e8/c98147c6df17.jpg
Maul555
Xen Investments
#31 - 2011-11-04 16:53:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Maul555
I like the new changes and the fact that highsec is somewhat brighter than the more dangerous areas of the galaxy. I have noticed 1 error though in what appears to be the entire genesis region. In one corner of the skybox you can see the edges of the box. Screenshot should be self-explanatory...

Skybox genesis


edit: and yeah, it does get a pit pixely when you zoom into the background.
schurem
Anarchy Inc.
#32 - 2011-11-04 16:56:36 UTC
Really loving the added depth of the new nebulae. Molden heath losec is awful bright though, not at all different from high sec.

Not sure i like the minmatar red. its so very ... red. I may have to move my missioning away from hedal :(

.... You can't take the skies from me.

Ampoliros
Aperture Harmonics
#33 - 2011-11-04 17:01:54 UTC
The highsec regions i've been through seemed a bit too bright, could stand to be toned down a bit. Especially the lonetrek nebula, which in jita is blindingly bright

other than that, i really enjoy them
Raid'En
#34 - 2011-11-04 17:15:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Raid'En
cloud ring is very nice, was obvious there were something to see here given his name, so i set autopilot to it, but it's way nicer than i though xD

need to check russians regions now ^^

edit : outer ring has also a bug ; a big white line
edit2 : insmother have a texture bug on the orange nebulae also
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-11-04 17:31:40 UTC
OUTSTANDING JOB CCP!

I really like the border areas where you leave one nebula and space is very dark, but you can still see the other nebulas from afar.

Feedback:

Not gamebreaking or immersion breaking, but I do think having nebulas only change every region needs to be reevaluated. From what I see on the test server, especially large regions will have long periods of travel with no changes.

Thats all the feedback I have. Looks really great. Now I know what Jean Luc Piccard felt like when he flew the Enterprise into Nebulas!

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#36 - 2011-11-04 17:37:53 UTC
are the stars part of the skybox? any chance to run a shader over them and make them look less static/wallpaperish? (you know slight variations in brightness, flickering) This might make a big difference..

+1 great improvement over the old skyboxes

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Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2011-11-04 17:45:22 UTC
I'm not sure if this is a bug or intentional so I'll post it here. This was found in the Tenal and Tribute regions while I was having a look around at the new nebula. Odd thing.

Otherwise the nebula looks nice. A bit bright here and there and the transition just happens to place you inside rather than seeing the nebula get closer first but overall it's rather nice.

This post was rated "C" for capsuleer.

Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
#38 - 2011-11-04 17:54:59 UTC
would be epic if you could see the nebulas on the map.
gfldex
#39 - 2011-11-04 18:00:54 UTC
i'm flying to Paragon to watch the sky. Who would have thought that?

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Stellar Pilgrimage
#40 - 2011-11-04 18:12:29 UTC
New nebula = best nebula. /thread.