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Testing a Guristas Watch now.Tengu allowed in.Site seems to work exactly the same.

I think in the spirit of these changes, marauderers should be locked out of all level 3 and level 4 missions. Obviously pilots who have taken the time to train the skillpoints and invested the ISK to optimise their ships for running missions are creating unfair competition in hisec for Loyalty Points and they should only be allowed to compete against other similarly advanced players in losec. Maruderers are over powered for L4 missions and I see no reason why these should be allowed to farm unhindered.

I'm not sure which of the two previous posts I love more :)

+1 to Banning Marauders from DED 3/4's and lvl4 Missions, it is really game breaking the way it is now.

I think the reason is that a mission is just for you, you don't compete with anyone, so just fly whatever you want.

After my initial rage I simply accept the banned Tengu as a fact and am gonna adapt. Probably Navy Cruiser, T2 Cruiser or BC... We will have less scan strength, but considering all those scanning changes making our life easier, I believethe situation will not change that much.

The problem is more than 2 months of training wasted, but it is a different story, maybe one day the tengu will be useful to me once again.

This change is a joke in my opinion. Let me get this straight: the ship designed for exploration was too good at exploration so now we arbitrarily forbid it to enter sites which were designed for even bigger ships (and still allow those bigger ships). Did I get that right?

IMO you're doing it wrong though, cause as has already been pointed out the T3s will just shift to HACs or similar stuff that will still beat the crap out of noobs.

So I propose this instead: characters older than 150 days are not allowed in hisec exploration sites anymore.
This could be a trial balloon for the next expansion in which you could broaden this approach to all hisec activities. The name of that expansion could be Eve: Exodus, doesn't that have a nice ring to it? This not only solves the problem of noobs having too much annoying competition in hisec, it would also reinvigorate lowsec like nothing else.

"Eliminating T3s will just shift the complaints to HACs"

Probably just best to ban anything except T1 frigates from all sites 4/10 and below. Maybe those are too powerful and we should just restrict them to shuttles. Shuttles can't even find DED plexes, so that should be perfectly balanced.

What I thinking is CCP is apparently trying to marginalize all the free players. Exploration was a very good way to earn easy isks. Many people, like me, actually pay our plex by doing this. Remember all those fixed position 1/2/10 in highsec? That was such an increadible way to make money. You just need to do this for 3-4 days a month and you could easily earn a plex for next month, or even the month after. It was gunned down in retribution after all. However we still got 3/4/10 in highsec, honestly lots of them. Everynight you check out the universe you will see tons of T3 flying in space looking for signatures. And this is not just happening in highsec. In nullsec people did the same thing every moment as well. Although these people are not solo players but they could earn 2 or 3 months plex just in one day. Imagine these people are all having fun just as the actual paying players and they can do this all the time until they get bored by this game. For CCP these people are not giving any contribution to their income and this is totally intolerable. Step one they have taken out of 1/2/10 in the last version and now step two is gonna be the whole universe all together. And this is far from over--there will be a step 3.

I believe this is the truth behind what they want to do. Which is a bunch of crap, the ships come from exploration space, are made using parts found by exploring, and are above all else designed to be used as exploration ships.

banning t3's from hi sec ded sites is the single most stupid thing i have ever heard....

if the reason is "balance" then go f*ck yourself.... eve is eve, it was never balanced or fair to begin with!

dont mess with peoples choices!

Are you serious? Are you another of the zealot brigade that wants to nerf the living hell out of high sec in order to "encourage" people to move to low and null to be your target practice? Want to make high sec a newbie only starting place where no one can make decent money? Limit everyone to noobships and T1 frigs?

CCP's already nerfed high sec income multiple times. They removed L5 missions, lowered the amount of mission loot, drastically reduced the amount of salvage materials from wrecks, removed the static plexes, nerfed incursions, etc. Then there are the player driven risk factors like suicide gankers, can flippers, ninja looters, wardecs. The risks vs rewards in high sec are pretty well balanced. Attempting to force people to play the game the way you think it should be played, by making it harder to earn isk in high sec, won't make people move. It will just make them move on to another game. It would also make people like me, who earn money in high sec so we can afford our low sec combat habits, less willing to risk shiny ships since it would be harder to replace them. Sorry, I'm not in one of those big alliances that hands out replacement gear like candy.

Also, how would your idea stop people in low sec from similarly farming the sites?

I doubt CCP will take such a ham fisted approach as the ones you suggest. It would just alienate a bunch of customers that I'm sure they would like to keep happy and paying. CCP is in business to make money. The way they do that is by growing the customer base, not making the game a miserable experience for them and driving them away.