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Admiral Yanala, I should like to shake your hand.

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Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#21 - 2013-05-21 07:24:01 UTC
A few 'T's coming to mind at the moment.

Tasteless.

Tiring.

Trite.

Maybe you folks should focus on giving the Admiral the respect she deserves. Instead, you neglect to give her the praise she's due so that you can entertain conspiracy theories.

Seriously, you're Capsuleers. Are your lives really that boring and uneventful you've got to waste your time on theories like this?

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#22 - 2013-05-21 09:39:15 UTC
The admiral is likely busy.
Major battles have a lot of cleanup afterwards, and most of the protocol can't be skipped.
Her schedule would include appearing before the inquiry board over how she lost a capital ship, then they are going to investigate her conduct in a battle that was lost, and they would have throughly questioned her over the action she took.

Public relations is a fairly low priority.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-05-21 12:28:14 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't understand why everybody thinks she is dead? Seriously.

There has been absolutely no evidence to suggest she is dead. Most of you had never heard of her until a few months ago... and now that she isn't waving her arms in front of a crowd, you all think she is dead? Give the woman a shred of respect and stop calling her gone before her time.

Well, I am pretty sure that for the reasons of the investigation she is kept alive. Whatever I said referring to death, was about me. Because should I be in her place, I would do whatever it takes to end my life.

Of course, if all charges will be lifted and she will be reinstated to active service, I will respect her authority and will follow her orders.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#24 - 2013-05-21 13:17:04 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Well Kate, the next time you take a long vacation, I'm going to start crapping up our message boards about how you must be dead. That should be interesting!




I truly apologize for what I have said, I have not been been in right state of mind lately and tend to jump to conclusions rather quickly. I hope you can forgive me for my actions.

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Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#25 - 2013-05-21 15:59:13 UTC
I'd still like to hear her justify her actions engaging Brigadier General Odo Korachi before shaking her hand for doing the right thing later.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#26 - 2013-05-22 03:19:45 UTC
She justified her actions right before she blew him out of the sky:
Korachi was violating Caldari airspace where a no-fly zone was being enforced, and he refused to leave after multiple warnings.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2013-05-22 20:27:29 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
She justified her actions right before she blew him out of the sky:
Korachi was violating Caldari airspace where a no-fly zone was being enforced, and he refused to leave after multiple warnings.


Yulai Convention takes precedence when the Convention is being breached.

Of course, he could also have opposed the Gallente Federation in the process.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#28 - 2013-05-23 01:45:13 UTC
The convention WASN'T being breached, though; at least, not by the Caldari.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2013-05-23 18:25:33 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
The convention WASN'T being breached, though; at least, not by the Caldari.


Are you sure that preparing to open fire on Caldari Prime was not a breach of the Convention too ?
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#30 - 2013-05-24 07:46:41 UTC
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the news. She wasn't going to fire the doomsday, and there is nothing wrong with orbital fire-support when enemy mercenaries are being deployed.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2013-05-24 19:01:54 UTC
Only her and maybe her crew, at best, knew that she was actually not going to.

To the eyes of everyone else when the incident happened, the Shigeru threatened ambiguously to make use of the weapon several times.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#32 - 2013-05-25 01:11:44 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
She justified her actions right before she blew him out of the sky:
Korachi was violating Caldari airspace where a no-fly zone was being enforced, and he refused to leave after multiple warnings.


After public statements about the intent to fire the Doomsday device on the planet, CONCORD had every right to step in as a preventative measure.

The convention gives them that right, by that point the Caldari no-fly zone (which hundreds of capsuleers were also ignoring) was irrelevant. When there was a potential risk to the people and the Caldari Navy refused to co-operate with investigation, Brigadier General Korachi used appropriate measures and power to order a stand down.


She had no right to engage him, and flaunted CONCORD law.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-05-25 01:46:00 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the news. She wasn't going to fire the doomsday, and there is nothing wrong with orbital fire-support when enemy mercenaries are being deployed.


I have a feeling you're reading something from the news that isn't there.

She disarmed everything in the last minutes of the titan's existence. The rest of the time, everything was primed and ready to fire at the surface below. That includes the planet shattering kaboom known as a Doomsday Device.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-05-25 03:05:13 UTC
Grideris wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the news. She wasn't going to fire the doomsday, and there is nothing wrong with orbital fire-support when enemy mercenaries are being deployed.


I have a feeling you're reading something from the news that isn't there.

She disarmed everything in the last minutes of the titan's existence. The rest of the time, everything was primed and ready to fire at the surface below. That includes the planet shattering kaboom known as a Doomsday Device.

As far as I understand (and as what announced by newsfeed - and I am not sure how they are accurate), Oblivion-class doomsday device was disarmed long before everything else. And this kind of weapon was designed not for ground support definitely, but for capital ship combat, where it should be used against hostile fleet capital ships.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#35 - 2013-05-25 04:15:33 UTC
I would like to offer my own meager suggestion on why events unfolded as they did. It is supposition and should not be taken as fact.

The good Admiral had been given an order somewhere, from someone, to either fire the weapon at the surface or to prepare for such a bombardment. Her loyalty required that she designate the weapon for this task, but her honour dictated that she not fire upon the Kaalakiota peaks. For this reason she did not use the weapon against the dreadnoughts laying siege to Shiigeru.

When ones honour conflicts with ones loyalty, the tea may be the only good solution left.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-05-25 09:14:41 UTC
Unfortunately, you don't have access to the tea all the time.
And going away like that... with cloning incident, is not right. It is simply not right.
But it is the war and we all must be ready to pay the price, even if it won't be pretty.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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