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ISK Making Suggestions Thread

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Amilius Antonius
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-05-20 23:45:05 UTC
Hello Eve Gate I thought it would be nice to have a thread for people to recommend guides for making ISK in eve online. This would help me but I think this can also help a lot of other players if there are enough suggestions! Right now I have the question of how do you make a substantial amount of isk from mining? Now if any other players need a guide like this post here and ask I bet someone will want to reply and help out!
Nitrogen Isotopes
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-05-21 00:16:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitrogen Isotopes
Amilius Antonius wrote:
I thought it would be nice to have a thread for people to recommend guides for making ISK in eve online.
Make microprocessors pre patch, sell (or refine) after Odyssey when they require new materials.

Buy liquid ozone, then camp nullsec ice systems with an AFK cloaker after Odyssey.

You're welcome.

How to make a substantial amount of isk mining? Define substantial, otherwise you might not like the responses you'll get.
Alyssa SaintCroix
Leihkasse Stammheim
#3 - 2013-05-21 00:18:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alyssa SaintCroix
Simply put, you don't. You can multibox miners but at the end of the day you're still only making 8-10 million ISK (a bit more if you mine the high yield) per character per hour.
Jasfer Endashi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-21 06:39:38 UTC
Amilius Antonius wrote:
how do you make a substantial amount of isk from mining?


As Alyssa said, you don't. Mining is slow but steady income.

The way to make a substantial amount of ISK by mining is to mine for a long time.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#5 - 2013-05-21 08:01:38 UTC
Mining is more like residual income than a serious profession. The ISK/Hour is abysmal and no self-respecting player should live on it.

It serves a very particular niche for me; at-keyboard mining whilst talking across several channels and making extensive use of all of the 'remote management' skills. The income is extremely negligible but the alternative to that for me is to do the same activities from within a station so I figure 'Eh.' Mining is roughly as intensive as sitting in station, anyway.

You can make some decent ISK from multiboxing a medium-sized fleet, but at that point you're having to do so much micromanagement that it hardly seems worthwhile. I'd rather fill the Manufacturing slots of 20 characters and then simply not mine and suffer that opportunity cost, than fill the Manufacturing slots of 20 characters and then spend the time the jobs are running managing a mining fleet.

Short story:

Disregard a job as a career miner if you're serious about Industry or Trade at all.


Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-21 09:05:25 UTC
I mine when I have writing to do (reports, articles or thesis). I can pay enough attention to EVE while writing to manage a miner, but nothing more complex than that. Better than sitting in station or logging out.
Rebekkah Arcos
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-21 15:26:24 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
I mine when I have writing to do (reports, articles or thesis). I can pay enough attention to EVE while writing to manage a miner, but nothing more complex than that. Better than sitting in station or logging out.


That pretty much defines my mining activity to a "T." Work on a paper while hauling ore every once in a while, with just enough of the client window visible to see the overview.

I find mining boring when I'm actively playing, but it's ok in semi-afk mode.
Haulie Berry
#8 - 2013-05-21 15:30:27 UTC
How do you make a substantial amount of money digging ditches?

Because miners are basically the ditch-diggers of Eve.

(The correct answer is, "Be the final boss of the ditch digger's union and steal member dues." Lol).
Hassel Leet
New Rules
#9 - 2013-05-21 15:38:14 UTC
Multiboxing miners gives me a net yield of ~30 mil per account/hour.

I have 5 miners, 1 orca pilot and one freighter pilot.

I do this in a remote highsec system, and it suits me fine :)

Altho it might be a bit boring to mine with 1 account, Id like to point out that it is an entierly diffrent story when mining with my 7 accounts.


Just my 0.5 isks.
Mission Domino
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-21 20:43:38 UTC
Mine while you watch TV or are doing some other task. it's not hard to do and you can typically support your pvp char fairly easily by mining a few times a week.
Mulani Askiras
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-05-21 22:30:52 UTC
er, my mining hydra of 9 miners + 1 orca + 1 hauler brings in 25-30m/hr per miner account. That's 250-270m hourly for you nonmath nuts. I can pay a teensy tinsey fee to red frog to haul to jita and barely cut in to any profit.

I'm a masochist. I enjoy popping 27 rocks at a time. Clearly it's not something you can do afk to maximize your isk/hr so yes it's not a semi-afk kind of job given that out of 27 rocks you're going to be micro'ing something every few seconds. About 20 hrs of my game time each month goes towards account plexing and the rest just goes in to the trade machine.

Sure, I could sit in the station and trade all day (i only do it for 20~ minutes) but I enjoy stripping ore belts. Dunno why. I just do. I'm looking forward to moving to null in the near future and taking the mining hydra to some indy class systems and pumping up the levels ;D
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#12 - 2013-05-22 07:40:34 UTC
Mulani Askiras wrote:

I'm a masochist. I enjoy popping 27 rocks at a time. Clearly it's not something you can do afk to maximize your isk/hr so yes it's not a semi-afk kind of job given that out of 27 rocks you're going to be micro'ing something every few seconds. About 20 hrs of my game time each month goes towards account plexing and the rest just goes in to the trade machine.


To be fair, still sounds more interesting than Ratting/Missions.


Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Jasfer Endashi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-22 09:14:04 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
How do you make a substantial amount of money digging ditches?

Because miners are basically the ditch-diggers of Eve.

(The correct answer is, "Be the final boss of the ditch digger's union and steal member dues." Lol).


Or dig ditches for the rich and stupid.

Though to be honest I don't really know how that translates to Eve.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#14 - 2013-05-22 11:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinu Moorhsum
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
Simply put, you don't. You can multibox miners but at the end of the day you're still only making 8-10 million ISK (a bit more if you mine the high yield) per character per hour.


Depends on where you do it. In a WH, the last time I checked, mining high-grades paid 28mil per hour per mining ship, which is already 84 mil per hour for the tripple boxing I usually do, which I can then tripple again after that by making those minerals into T2 stuff to re-sell.

So if you look at the entire chain from mining to selling then mining/manufacturing is good business.

And like every other way of making isk in EVE, duplication duplication duplication.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#15 - 2013-05-22 12:23:25 UTC
Amilius Antonius wrote:
Hello Eve Gate I thought it would be nice to have a thread for people to recommend guides for making ISK in eve online.


Well.... I don't know much about some ways of making isk but I've been able to make money from the following activities at one time or other

- Ratting. Pays well in nullsec
- Missions. Pay fairly well if you use level 4 and 5 agents
- Killing sleepers in WH's. Pays well if you have the isk to invest in decent ratting ships
- Plexing. Can be time intenstive but the payday can be quite good.

- Mining / manufacturing. Utlimately pays about double what ratting does in terms of isk/hr of effort once you know what you're doing.
- PI. Pays well if you have access to good planets.
- Reactions. Pays well if you can moon-mine one of the components you need. Pays very well if your moon is a good one.
- Gas mining. Pays well in certain gas sites
- Market trading/transport. Time intensive until you have some isk to leverage and a (jump) freighter but can pay right proper profits once you're able to invest in some hair brained schemes. This activity alone is worthy of it's own thread since there are so many ways to make money from trading/transport
- Character trading

Things I've never tried but I hear can pay well:

- Incursions
- FW LP farming
- scamming / stealing. for example, I know someone whose main source of income is to infiltrate (wormhole) corps and steal their stuff
- high-sec ganking (time intensive but can pay a big payday if you're lucky)

Things that don't pay overly well but people still do them:

- Level 1, 2 or 3 missions unless you're grinding them to get level 4 and 5 agents
- courier contracts unless you can pick up in the station where you are and drop off in the station where you're going
- ratting anywhere in high-sec or low-sec
- ice mining in high-sec *unless* you're doing it in afk mode and only checking once per hour to see if you hold is full. The isk/hr is abysmal unless you're doing something else for 58 minutes of that hour.
- "Helping" people, which usually translates into you doing the work and them getting the isk.
- (ninja) salvaging. Salvaging can actually pay reasonably well in null-sec if you're working with someone who is ratting and doesn't want the wrecks but it's a lot of clicking.

In any case, I would strongly advise to try every way you can think of to make isk so you know how the mechanics work and then settle on a couple of things for a while, trading off for something new every now and then. It really helps to keep your game fresh when you have a new goal (learn how something works) or a change of pace.

Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#16 - 2013-05-22 14:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinzel Nikulainen
The beautiful thing is, I can still think of more ways to make ISK and there are several categories (like Trade, Scamming) which can be broken down into many more concise sub-categories.

And that's the thing about EVE, OP; I'd be more concerned with figuring out how to monetize what you enjoy, or how how to execute a plan that'll make ISK, then finding the activity that produces the best ISK/h. The most important thing is to find what you enjoy and carve out your niche.

I will probably go into booster production in the future. Not necessarily to produce any good ISK, just because I like the idea of being an internet spaceship drug baron.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#17 - 2013-05-22 15:37:58 UTC
Hassel Leet wrote:
Multiboxing miners gives me a net yield of ~30 mil per account/hour.

I have 5 miners, 1 orca pilot and one freighter pilot.

I do this in a remote highsec system, and it suits me fine :)

Altho it might be a bit boring to mine with 1 account, Id like to point out that it is an entierly diffrent story when mining with my 7 accounts.


Just my 0.5 isks.


i'll second this. the more accounts you have, the less boring it becomes. especially if you're using hulks.
floating in space
#18 - 2013-05-22 17:13:24 UTC
Mining is very rewarding if you enjoy putting in little to no effort like me.
Manny Moons
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-05-22 19:21:42 UTC
It isn't too hard to find ways to make ISK. The hard part is finding a way to make ISK that you can do over and over and over without it seeming like working.

Phook uquaz
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-23 22:06:16 UTC
my tuppence

I do 1 hour work buy a GTC sell and i make 1.2bill +/- 10%... then spend the rst of my time killing ****...

thats it really..

Eve is a game, dont work kill **** lose ships, smack talk, just do anything that doesn't feel like work...

sent from my pc - Im not a dick and pretend im cool with sent from iphone. I DONT CARE WHERE YOU SEND YOUR SHITE FROM

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