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5 Monitors, 5 Clients for Eve

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Arcelian
0nus
#1 - 2013-05-20 11:23:44 UTC
One 27", four 22" monitors. Trying to build a system capable of this. I have a topic going on toms hardware, but honestly I am underwhelmed at the amount of information I've received. It seems like very few have tried what I'm doing.

So here I am, looking for help from you guys. My original idea was to go with 3 nvidia gtx 670's. One card for the largest display, the others get two 22" displays each. Is this even possible? Can I use more than one GPU on the motherboard operating independently of each other? (No SLI/Xfire) I thought it was a simple matter of having enough GPU's to support the number of displays, but I'm not so sure now.

Also had an idea of maybe getting one Radeon 7950 with Eyefinity, as I heard that one card could support up to 6 monitors. But, I'm having a hard time believing that the one card, could play 5 eve clients at max settings without issue. Also, it was my understanding that eyefinity was for turning all the monitors into one large display, that's not what I'm trying to do.

I understand GTX 670's are a bit overkill for eve, but I plan to hang onto this system for a while. I would also like to do this without liquid cooling if possible.

Thanks for any response.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#2 - 2013-05-20 11:26:18 UTC
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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#3 - 2013-05-20 13:49:12 UTC
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Kesukka
#4 - 2013-05-20 13:52:17 UTC
I bet you could get away with 2 GTX 680 or 2 AMD 7970 and still have the graphics turned up.
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Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-05-20 16:24:42 UTC
I run 6 monitors on 3 cards, but I don't know about running 5 clients on separate monitors. I only ever use 1 for gaming.

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-20 16:54:47 UTC
Im able to run 3 clients on max settings across 3 displays with no issues with 2 GTX 680's.

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#7 - 2013-05-20 17:19:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Arcelian wrote:
My original idea was to go with 3 nvidia gtx 670's. One card for the largest display, the others get two 22" displays each. Is this even possible?

Not just possible, but downright overkill from certain standpoints.
A single GTX 670 could already easily handle all 5 clients on its own with processing power to spare.
The only downside of a single card would be that you could not use 5 monitors. You need a second card for that.

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Can I use more than one GPU on the motherboard operating independently of each other? (No SLI/Xfire)

Yes.

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I thought it was a simple matter of having enough GPU's to support the number of displays, but I'm not so sure now.

Your initial instinct was correct.
At least as far as "non-SLI" configurations go, that is.
With SLI mode, it can get complicated.
Not that the display/desktop configuration would be a lot nicer for separately driven monitors, but still, should be less hassle than trying to SLI-it-up in that configuration.

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Also had an idea of maybe getting one Radeon 7950 with Eyefinity, as I heard that one card could support up to 6 monitors. But, I'm having a hard time believing that the one card, could play 5 eve clients at max settings without issue.

The only POTENTIAL serious issue could be lack of video RAM.
A single EVE instance can have a wildly different video RAM needs depending on loaded textures (which depends on what the ingame simulated situation might be, flying a mission solo is obviously vastly different from being engaged in a massive fleet combat situation), but I personally haven't seen it go past 650MB or thereabouts myself (station-spinning barely uses 100MB extra or so, but no idea how bad a large fleet combat could get).
Even if you're paranoid about it, in standalone (non-SLI) mode, a ballpark of 1 GB of video RAM per instance/monitor should more than suffice.

You could even get mismatched cards if you don't really care about the SLI:
- one 4GB GTX 670 for the large screen plus two of the smaller ones, and
- one 2GB GTX 660 (non-Ti) for the remaining two smaller monitors.

EDIT: the thing with a SLI configuration (if you choose to enable it) is that most (not quite all, but most) of the video RAM requirements need to be duplicated on a per-card basis, since all cards contribute to all accelerated tasks, so they all need all the data. I'm not sure how well the bridge data flow works (nor if that's even a thing that actually happens) to "share" some of it between cards directly. Worst case scenario, you might want to get 4GB video RAM versions of all video cards if you actually want to do it all in SLI mode at some time.

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I understand GTX 670's are a bit overkill for eve, but I plan to hang onto this system for a while. I would also like to do this without liquid cooling if possible.

You do know that the 700 series is coming out sooner rather than later, no ?
Probably best wait until at least the 760s come out and get some of those instead - they're also more likely to have more video RAM than the current generation, and use less power at the same performance level (hence need less cooling for the same game in the same resolution).

And two of them should be enough either way.
The third one makes cooling a bit more of a headache, but with just two you can stick with the default air cooling (especially if you space them apart on a board that can handle three in the first place).
Sure, the third one is very nice to have for when you DO want to enable SLI mode later on for heck knows what game you might want to play that actually needs all that horsepower, but, you know, "meh".
Farrakhan Shabazz
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-05-20 23:30:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Farrakhan Shabazz
Arcelian wrote:
One 27", four 22" monitors. Trying to build a system capable of this. I have a topic going on toms hardware, but honestly I am underwhelmed at the amount of information I've received. It seems like very few have tried what I'm doing.

So here I am, looking for help from you guys. My original idea was to go with 3 nvidia gtx 670's. One card for the largest display, the others get two 22" displays each. Is this even possible? Can I use more than one GPU on the motherboard operating independently of each other? (No SLI/Xfire) I thought it was a simple matter of having enough GPU's to support the number of displays, but I'm not so sure now.

Also had an idea of maybe getting one Radeon 7950 with Eyefinity, as I heard that one card could support up to 6 monitors. But, I'm having a hard time believing that the one card, could play 5 eve clients at max settings without issue. Also, it was my understanding that eyefinity was for turning all the monitors into one large display, that's not what I'm trying to do.

I understand GTX 670's are a bit overkill for eve, but I plan to hang onto this system for a while. I would also like to do this without liquid cooling if possible.

Thanks for any response.


Liquid cooling nowadays isn't as complicated (or expensive) as it was in the old days due to the prevalence of closed liquid systems. You can get some very good safe liquid cooling for the CPU and GPU. Check out the Corsair Hydro liquid cooling systems.

My rig could probably support what you are doing with multiple video cards (I just need one GTX 680 for my needs). I have the following on a Asus Rampage IV Extreme Motherboard. It is a BEAST and will take on anything you throw at it. Running cool in a big Coolermaster case. BTW, get a Seasonic power supply. IMHO one of the best out there and you are gonna need some good, solid, clean power with multiple high end graphic cards.


Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor

ASUS GTX680-DC2-4GD5 GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model

SeaSonic X-SERIES X-1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply


OCZ Vector Series VTR1-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC

CORSAIR Hydro Series H90 Water Cooler

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-05-20 23:47:21 UTC
Arcelian wrote:

So here I am, looking for help from you guys. My original idea was to go with 3 nvidia gtx 670's. One card for the largest display, the others get two 22" displays each. Is this even possible? Can I use more than one GPU on the motherboard operating independently of each other? (No SLI/Xfire) I thought it was a simple matter of having enough GPU's to support the number of displays, but I'm not so sure now.

/me doing it since Windows 98.

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Arcelian
0nus
#10 - 2013-05-21 14:40:09 UTC
Wow, thank you Akita. That pretty much sums it all up, I think I have enough information to put this all together. I typed up a long response, twice, and lost it, twice, so I guess this will suffice. I won't be building this til mid-latge august, so if the 700 series is out by then, I may get a pair of those. Or just get a killer deal on some 670's. :) I'm not really a gamer per se, just some game I like to play. Eve being the main one.

My only concern is that the GPU's only have 2 dvi, 1 hdmi, and one displayport. The monitors I'm looking at only support DVI. I suppose I could use an adapter, if quality wouldn't be compromised. I would think not, especially since they are both digital signals.

Thank you for the info.
Arcelian
0nus
#11 - 2013-05-21 14:42:53 UTC
Farrakhan Shabazz wrote:
Arcelian wrote:
One 27", four 22" monitors. Trying to build a system capable of this. I have a topic going on toms hardware, but honestly I am underwhelmed at the amount of information I've received. It seems like very few have tried what I'm doing.

So here I am, looking for help from you guys. My original idea was to go with 3 nvidia gtx 670's. One card for the largest display, the others get two 22" displays each. Is this even possible? Can I use more than one GPU on the motherboard operating independently of each other? (No SLI/Xfire) I thought it was a simple matter of having enough GPU's to support the number of displays, but I'm not so sure now.

Also had an idea of maybe getting one Radeon 7950 with Eyefinity, as I heard that one card could support up to 6 monitors. But, I'm having a hard time believing that the one card, could play 5 eve clients at max settings without issue. Also, it was my understanding that eyefinity was for turning all the monitors into one large display, that's not what I'm trying to do.

I understand GTX 670's are a bit overkill for eve, but I plan to hang onto this system for a while. I would also like to do this without liquid cooling if possible.

Thanks for any response.


Liquid cooling nowadays isn't as complicated (or expensive) as it was in the old days due to the prevalence of closed liquid systems. You can get some very good safe liquid cooling for the CPU and GPU. Check out the Corsair Hydro liquid cooling systems.

My rig could probably support what you are doing with multiple video cards (I just need one GTX 680 for my needs). I have the following on a Asus Rampage IV Extreme Motherboard. It is a BEAST and will take on anything you throw at it. Running cool in a big Coolermaster case. BTW, get a Seasonic power supply. IMHO one of the best out there and you are gonna need some good, solid, clean power with multiple high end graphic cards.


Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor

ASUS GTX680-DC2-4GD5 GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model

SeaSonic X-SERIES X-1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply


OCZ Vector Series VTR1-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC

CORSAIR Hydro Series H90 Water Cooler

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G


Will look into that PSU. Thanks. Will post a pic when its all said and done. :)