Player Features and Ideas Discussion

i get it some people think that it's eminently urgent that CCP finish up WiS content so that you can /dance with your friends in a station but they seem to have priorities re: the actual game

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Really the whole idea behind it is if the assets are still there. Just let the players take control over it like every other aspect of eve that we control. They don't need to script anything for us we do that well enough in game our self's. Yes i know some of you want it some dont some want it to die in a fire. I perfectly respect your opinions on that. Like i said if the assets are already there but just not being used do to lack of NPC etc. Pay the avatar team or a few programmers to at least make it accessible to us to allow us to wis our own stations with our own eco system. Provided they already using assets they spent the money on already developed cause the last pictures i saw of it and footage they had the inside of the stations just not populated. If this has changed then by all means just drop it tell its ready. Just saying if they never removed the assets and its just the door that's locked open it to the community to do with what it seems like they cant do with it.


from the size of the install im going to bet that the assets are still on everyone's hdd. The thing that gets me is if you watch alot of CCP eve lore read the books and watch there videos alot of stuff happens planet side or station side. But alas were still stuck forever more in our ships which is ok But they seem to market eve as a simulation and or a Sandbox sometimes both depending on what there trying to show. I would just like to see them finish an expansion (Technically there patches but still.)


IF the assets are there a team could finish off giving people the ability to run there own shops bars communication rooms or whatever a corp / allience would need in a reasonable amount of time with minimal cost largely do to the fact they spent so much time building it already.)

WiS has one big hurdle to get over...


The amount of stations and the amount of players in those stations.

For WiS to make sense, i.e. with player interaction a.k.a. game play and socialising, certain thresholds will have to be met, otherwise its a ghost station or Jita where you get lagged out as the extra two hardened nodes can not handle the thousand plus people in it doing disreputable things to each other.

That was always the issue with WiS on such a grand scale, too many stations with too few people or the exact opposite.

So WiS would have to be limited to certain stations, maybe new social/trade/pod pilot/freelancer owned outside of the corp standing mechanic or sec status related in high and If CCP can come up with a modular POS design, self assembly stations along T3 construction lines, maybe look at some current modular (mainly matari) station builds for inspiration. That would be a boon to low and null sec morale and possibly provide a tie in / interaction on a corp level of dust and eve characters in avatar form, truly bringing both together.

But that is adding to the depth and breath of game play, not altering existing to the lowest denominator and throwing shiny, shiny at the screen where they think they get the best short term return.

yeah, i´m a cynic, but that´s experience

I love and hate these threads.

First, I love them because I want Avatar based iteration, and these threads popping up and quickly becoming threadnaughts show that the playerbase wants it. It's always someone new asking for it, and there are always new people in here vouching for it.

I hate these threads because there is no logic in the arguments in them. The pro WiS people start asking for content that no one can get behind, and most of them don't understand that releasing more small empty rooms is a complete waste of time. And the anti-WiS crowd feed on these people like vultures. It's easy to pick their ideas apart. The fact of the matter is that CCP have prototyped a model for CONTENT in WiS that involved wreck diving, PvE, exploration, PvP, puzzles and integrated functionality with the rest of the Eve universe. It covers everyone's needs. Even the anti-WiS guys can't argue with it. But the pro guys aren't supporting it... they want more empty rooms.

Don't get me wrong. One day, I want to have corp quarters where I can sit my character down after a roam and chat and laugh with corp mates... I am only going to dock up and do it over TS3 anyway. It would be nice to put down a few bets and play some of that risk style game for ISK whilst we chat. But, the first step has to be meaningful content first.

If you want WiS, then support the exploration prototype. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=161511

No thanks.

Problem is we're throwing the baby out with he bathwater. WIS could have had interesting gameplay and content. They messed up and it didn't, and now these forums start frothing at the mouth at the very mention of it because they can't separate the Incarna failure from the concept of walking outside your ship.

I swear people seem to follow 'Eve is about spaceships' like it's some kind of fundamental religion. Eve is about people cooperating or competing with each other. There's no reason that can't take place outside a ship. Hell, all the scamming and espionage we love so much basically takes place outside of a ship, it takes place on TS and forums and chat and whatever.

CCP REMOVE SCAMMING PLEASE EVE SHOULD BE ABOUT SPACESHIPS ONLY THX.

No, my goonie, no. Their priorites are developing and releasing two avatar-based videogames while they feed EVE with regurgigated spaceship content.

Please, please enlighten us with what are clearly massive gameplay opportunities opened by shoehorning some cheap clone of Second Life into EVE!

Right, the merger with White Wolf didn't mean that the guys keeping their dying vampire franchise on life support were going to drop that and work on spaceships.

Here you go. Moreover, it even has an idea / concept on how to fund it and get it to market.