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Can we make flying frigates profitable somehow?

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Kieron Krodmandouin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-05-19 00:31:12 UTC
I realize it is a pretty big risk/reward issue, but flying anything much bigger that a cruiser I find annoyingly tedious. Frigates, on the other hand, are a lot of fun. The thing is, doing a level 3-4 in a frigate takes forever and is not really economical...

Off the top of my head, why not have advanced level 1-2 missions, that you must purchase rights to, and if you don't clear it in your time frame you lose your money? If you do you get your deposit plus a hefty chunk of change.

Just a thought to make missions suck a little less. Flying battleships does make me want to open up my wrists, however.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-19 00:57:29 UTC
Kieron Krodmandouin wrote:
I realize it is a pretty big risk/reward issue, but flying anything much bigger that a cruiser I find annoyingly tedious. Frigates, on the other hand, are a lot of fun. The thing is, doing a level 3-4 in a frigate takes forever and is not really economical...

Off the top of my head, why not have advanced level 1-2 missions, that you must purchase rights to, and if you don't clear it in your time frame you lose your money? If you do you get your deposit plus a hefty chunk of change.

Just a thought to make missions suck a little less. Flying battleships does make me want to open up my wrists, however.


IMO it's relative. I met a guy who had quit EVE and restarted again. this time around he had decided to stick with frigates for his first year. He could blast through level 3's in an assault frigate.

When I asked him how the isk was, he said it wasn't as good as when he used to run level 4's etc. But he was also only flying frigates so he didnt need as much isk.

So bottom line, if you like frigates you won't make as much isk. But you don't need as much either.
Kieron Krodmandouin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-05-19 01:03:54 UTC
Fair enough. Could still be interesting content though.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-19 01:18:51 UTC
Scan down sites.... I know a guy that makes a lot more than I do running level 4 missions in a battleship with an assault frigate.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-05-19 01:49:21 UTC  |  Edited by: OfBalance
As I recall highsec and lowsec exploration were (and still are AFAIK) quite profitable, varying by location, and farmable with nothing more than a frigate or cruiser hull, depending on your tastes. On a related note: plenty a sell-sword (sell-ship?) could use a tackler in their gang. You might find mercenary, faction war, or piracy fulfulling as well.

Are these kinds of thing the pinnacle of the almightly ~isk per hour~ manta? Certainly not, but they won't leave you wanting for isk if you idea of a good time is flying frigates.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#6 - 2013-05-19 05:24:56 UTC
Consider WH daytripping, profitable with a chance for action and you can do C2s in an assault frig.

Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#7 - 2013-05-19 11:44:02 UTC
Pirate Epic arcs are an option.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-05-19 11:50:52 UTC
FW can earn some decent cash and it doesn't always have to involve pvp.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-05-19 16:17:07 UTC
I can kill angel rat bs in the belt in low sec with my rifter.

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l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#10 - 2013-05-19 16:22:50 UTC
What the other guys say! Lowsec exploration. Should be even more fun after the next big patch.

If you do level 2 or 3 in a frig it's all your fault and i pity you.

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EMO JAck
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-05-21 16:44:31 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txSJqCQUsSs

You could do sites. You could do faction warfare. You could go do epic arc missions in null. The ship is not the isk making problem its the pilot. Hell I made over a bil once flying an escalation in a harpy. Get creative and get aggressive.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#12 - 2013-05-21 18:09:27 UTC
as posters have noted, the isk is there, just not in the form of 'push buttan recieve mishun' that can be repeated indefinitely. I'm thinking of epic arcs that have lowsec branches designed for frigates, as well as other non-mission avenues.

Also, I expect hunting for the sec status tags will be doable in frigs.

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Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-05-21 18:52:15 UTC
Ah you mean like a Torchlight 2 kinda mechanic with the maps?

That would be interesting.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2013-05-21 19:21:38 UTC
Gets some friends and go run lvl4's in T1 frigs. We did it with 8 pilots in punishers in amarr space a while ago. While it is fun to start with but its not going to make you lots of isk
Ginger Barbarella
#15 - 2013-05-21 22:00:08 UTC
1. exploration
2. low-end DED sites
3. fw missions
4. ratting
5. dropping in on novice and small fw plexes
6. "piracy"

Need more?

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-05-22 04:28:32 UTC
CCP was going to script high lvl missions for frigs, with matching pay. Then they abadoned pve.Bear
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#17 - 2013-05-22 13:09:03 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
I can kill angel rat bs in the belt in low sec with my rifter.

i often take our new players in scanned lowsec sigs or ded and we are all in frig sized hulls, to teach them speed tank, how to manage transversal, how to follow primarys etc... best exercice to learn that side of pvp without the pressure of real pvp, while making a bit of isk, and if one of them fail, they usually have a t1 frig so easy to replace.

usually we do it at 4 or 5, and in a couple hours, they are pretty good speed tankers, and we then have lotta fun flying frigs around Big smile

and once they have enought skills to hop in assault or pirate frigs.....well we all know what a 5 or 10 man assault frig gank can do with good organisation Twisted
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-05-31 02:33:29 UTC
You can easily earn a half billion mission running in a frigate – pirate epic arcs. An autocannon fitted rifter can complete them, although an assault frigate is much faster / better.

They are not easy, they are not for everyone, but they are fun and you will learn lots more about game dynamics … other players being a much greater risk than the missions themselves.

Lots more info at …
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread

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