EVE General Discussion

I know it is a bit of both. But which is more important to you?

Movies have been kind of hamstrung as art because of the investment formula "give people what they want and more will come." Automobiles are limited by standards set on them by various agencies. And food while it can certainly be artistic and wonderful is not typically something we engage in to transcend previous limits, far better to have just a good meal with friends. These are all examples of very artistic products.

To me true art pushes boundaries, it makes me look at the world in different ways. I don't look for uniformity or an expected performance. I want art to challenge my ideas about the world.

The ruins of Rome do this in that I can't believe that humans could do that without modern tools.

Rebrandt's characters and his visions of them make me marvel at the greatness that ordinary people can posses.

And John Steinbeck just hurts to read as you see what horrible wickedness can exist as part and parcel of sublime goodness.

This kind of art did not have standards, it exists on its own merit and because it allows us to see something that is completely new and different.

So, when you log into Eve are you looking for an artistic experience? Or is a product that you use and have expectations for.

First it's a candy... then it's gum.

EVE is a service. And considering who's being kept inside by it, it's a public service at that.

due to how zoomed out i am most of the time, if it is art it's a completely wasted effort.

Its a product.

yk

I'd say computer game design in general is an art form. (I'm talking about the idea of the game and how it's designed to work. Not the necessarily the graphics or music/sound design). Maybe not a fine art, like painting, sculpture, or literature. More like an applied art, like architecture or auto body design.

Maybe a good analogy to computer games is comic books. Comic books are produced as entertainment (commercial) products. But if the content is no good, they'll fail to sell. For the content to be any good, some inspiration, good artistic decisions, and good design and execution of the visual imagery is needed.

fine art
n
1. art produced chiefly for its aesthetic value, as opposed to applied art

applied art
n
1. any type of art done with a practical application; the application of design and aesthetics to objects of function and everyday use

Well considering Eve has been inducted into the Museum of Modern Art I would assume that it is art. So in terms of chronological events if you assume that it became art once it became an art piece in a museum that first Eve was an idea, then it was a video game, and now it's art!

We live in an age where anything can be called art depending on how it makes you feel. Rub paint on your feet, run back and forth across a canvas. Then? Wallah! You've a piece of modern art for that gallery down the road. So if appreciating EVE makes you feel sophisticated, contemplative, and appreciative in the endeavor then I guess it's art to you.

I think the art side is more important to me - I want to feel like I'm there, I love that immersion, and for immersion EVE is (or can be, at its best) a work of art.

If you don't have at least 1000 more "likes" from this post, alone, by the time I pour my first irish coffee, and log on, in the morning, there is something terribly wrong with this playerbase, and we bittervets and our revered "ancient ones" need to come together and discuss how we're to go about fixing it.