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Question For Solo Pilots Out There

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Seraph Castillon
In Control
Neon Nightmares
#21 - 2013-05-17 17:29:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Castillon
I don't know what ratio's I'm getting, but I can't complain. Most of your losses will come from choosing the wrong fights or not reading the situation correctly. Work on that.

Like I've said in previous threads on this: train your situational awareness skills. Before you take a fight, try and determine if there are fleets in system and who is in them. Check directional scan for T3 boosters and command ships. Learn the names of booster alts, add them with standings if needed. Learn what systems are home to booster using, waffle-eating pussies.

Looking at your fits I can't say they are optimal for solo either. Your Merlin for example. It's too slow to have sufficient range control, even with the TD. Its low DPS also means that you cannot engage any rocket frigates in it either.

Also keep in mind that you're much more likely to get blobbed on weekends and Friday evenings.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#22 - 2013-05-17 17:44:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Maximus Hashur wrote:
I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.

So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?


I fly solo allot with no ogb.

I do pay for the best mods I can fit, meta 5 or below. So my ships aren't what I would call cheap but they mostly aren't bling. I really don't recomend using the very cheap ships unless you are learning the absolute basics. Figure out an income source. 100 million isk is like $3. So You can get about 10 t1 frigates that cost 15 mill for $4.50 if you just pay out of pocket.

My loss kill ratio is about 2-3 kills per loss. Not great but its not bad. I can go on rolls where I lose 5 ships with no kill. But you have to learn to trust in your fitting and piloting skills to get through those streaks. If I lose ships due to gate camps I don't take that into account when evaluating a fit. I take allot of fights where I know I will get killed but just hope I can get a kill before I die.

I don't care about my isk ratio very much. Being in a blob for a while will get your isk ratio high if you care about that. If you are on a 2 billion isk kill with 20 other pilots, all 20 get credited with a 2 billion isk kill. Solo pilots should not expect to have a great isk ratio.

I tend to look at my overall battleclinic points per kill versus my battleclinic points per loss to see how I am doing. But this is not perfect. If I fly a destroyer and kill 4 t1 frigates this will lower this ratio but its still a good result and likely a fun fight.

I also tend to look at how many bc points I gave or took in a fight. But again this isn't perfect either. E.g., assume I am in a destroyer and fight 1 destroyer and a t1 frigate. Assume I kill the destroyer but the t1 frigate finishes me off. I will typically just get 20 bc points for the dessie kill. That frigate will get a killmail worth about 40 or 60 bc(depending on the type of dessie) points because it will show he killed my destroyer with the help of a pod. There I say Battleclinic points be damned I love lossmails with pods on my kill.Cool

I have been known to use some expensive implants and lose my pod due to dumb mistakes. IMO Low sec pilots should learn to avoid these mistakes so they can use better implants. I think implants are just a part of fitting ships in low sec and can make a big difference. Not as big of a difference as booster ships but definite edges. I imagine I view my implant sets like some null sec pilots view their cap ships. They are very important tools for what I do (low sec pvp) and I consider the isk I spend on them well spent.

Sorry for the long answer that went way beyond your question. But these are the loose standards I use to mark my progress.

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feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#23 - 2013-05-17 17:52:28 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about.


I thought you did, then you linked battleclinic Blink

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#24 - 2013-05-17 18:01:01 UTC
feihcsiM wrote:
God's Apples wrote:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=God%27s+Apples#kills <- my KB just so you know I have an idea of what I'm talking about.


I thought you did, then you linked battleclinic Blink


Battleclinic is actually great to determine if someone has a lot of quality kills.

Look at kill count, compare it with ranking, skim over kills to see if there is any bullshit going on (frig station camping, high sec pvp that kinda thing)

And you can get a pretty good idea.

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#25 - 2013-05-17 18:02:06 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
If i were to make an alt to troll the forums it would be "Fatgris". Chatgris's overweight twin sister that sucks at PvP (the weight issue comes from an inferiority complex so emotional eating ensues). Much flying of terribad gallente ships would happen on this alt to further the persona.


See if you can buy this character and get her in some bad gallente ships:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Chatgrus

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Banly
Tm8gVGF4
#26 - 2013-05-17 18:31:27 UTC
It's probably right around 1:1 when I'm flying around solo. I'm too lazy to get a second account for OGB and never have implants because I get podded way more than anyone should be. If I'm smart about it and have time to be patient I can get a pretty good ratio going until I run into someone who has OGB or insane implants but that's just part of the game. Generally I'm just goofing around though and try to win against the first thing I see on dscan (I've got some pretty ******** losses due to this).

As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think.
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#27 - 2013-05-17 19:30:42 UTC
Quote:
As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think.


This. Why are you soloing if not for fun? Its bad for your kill board compared to blobbing, pays ****, won't make you efamous unless you're doing a video series or the best pilot in space.

Don't sweat it. Just fly what you enjoy and shoot ****. Ask your killers for advice if you're not sure why you died. We soloists are a pretty friendly bunch, especially in lowsec.

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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
#28 - 2013-05-17 19:31:06 UTC
Maximus Hashur wrote:
I wanted to see what some of the other truly solo pilots out there (no OGB links) are experiencing as far as their kill/loss record goes? Im getting on average 1 kill for every 2 losses. The losses for the last month at least have mainly been due to blobs, 2-3+ against me, or pilots who have crazy off grid boosters.

So my question is - are all of you other solo pilots experiencing a loss ratio similar to this?

OGB free frigate pilot here. \o/

When i started i was losing way more fights than i won just because so few people actually take 1v1 fights. These days i specialized in one ship, i know what i can take, i know what i can't, i'm used to quite a few of the pilots i encounter and i pick my fights a bit more careful. Also i can keep calm in fights these days and know when and how to bail if things go bad.

I'm probably averaging 5 kills per loss now.

pew pew

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
#29 - 2013-05-17 19:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Guerrilla
**** me, i can't forums.

pew pew

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#30 - 2013-05-17 20:15:57 UTC
Garresh wrote:
Quote:
As long as you're having fun your k:d/isk ratio doesn't matter too much I think.


This. Why are you soloing if not for fun? Its bad for your kill board compared to blobbing


It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2013-05-17 20:29:33 UTC
I get between 2-3 kills for one loss.

My policy is: anything with a 50/50 or better odds of winning gets an engagement.

When I get bored or when testing new fits, I will engage at higher odds (generally up to 20/80 in the enemies favor).

I lose some ships like dumb things like afk plexing. But hey, I get bored easily. Hanging in a plex right now while typing this in fact without view of the client.

I don't use OGB's and only rarely expensive mods or implants, simply because I can afford to lose them with regularity since the stuff improves my odds so will only result in improving my viable list of targets.

As for K/D ratios or isk ratio's, I don't really care. I never look at them when evaluating the skill of a hostile pilot, because they are very poor predictors of actual ability.
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2013-05-17 20:30:32 UTC
chatgris wrote:
[quote=Garresh]
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.


If you avoid risky fights, it is. But the fun is in risky fights...
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#33 - 2013-05-17 20:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Merdaneth wrote:
chatgris wrote:
[quote=Garresh]
It's great for your kb if you care about points and ranking, not isk efficiency.


If you avoid risky fights, it is. But the fun is in risky fights...


Generally false: For example, lets say you take a destroyer into a group of 10 frigates and you manage to kill just one before you die.

You get: 10 points.

You lose: 4 points

The more people who get on your lossmail, the less points you lose. Which tends to incentive risky behaviour, which IMO is fun.

When you aren't hopelessly outnumbered:

If you kill a destroyer with another destroyer: 20 points.

If you gamble and take a t1 frig instead and kill the destroyer, 40 points.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#34 - 2013-05-17 20:43:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
i fly solo most of the time and refuse to use mechanics like OGBs, ECM or dampening on the ships i fly since i also don't like them when they are used on the other side. I do it mostly for the challenge so i don't always use general purpose ships with high success ratios. (for example i don't think i ever piloted a minmatar ship - even back when rifters where cool).

I can recommend two things for soloers:
- try to record your fights... its the best way to learn from your mistakes if you can watch it again later.
Thats actually something i should have done from the beginning but i haven't.

- and don't switch ships all the time ;) get used to one and fly it a few times... otherwise very stupid mistakes will happen (at least in my case)

k/d ratio? no clue, probably quite bad.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#35 - 2013-05-17 22:17:04 UTC
Wow I didn't realize the point system was weighted that way. I'd always been saying kill boards need to account for people involved, but anyways. Question though: I tend to go through phases in regards to PvP. Like I'll PvP for a month, then take a break to raise money, then head back. Do points decay or favor more active pilots?

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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#36 - 2013-05-17 22:22:06 UTC
Garresh wrote:
Wow I didn't realize the point system was weighted that way. I'd always been saying kill boards need to account for people involved, but anyways. Question though: I tend to go through phases in regards to PvP. Like I'll PvP for a month, then take a break to raise money, then head back. Do points decay or favor more active pilots?


Points do not decay - they favour active pilots only in so much if you're not pvping, you're not accumulating points.
Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-05-18 01:09:01 UTC
yea I think im going to switch my fits to a more brawler style. Ive been doing the kite thing for a while now with mixed results

Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.  Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!

Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#38 - 2013-05-18 06:12:36 UTC
Why do all the "cool" people dislike the Battleclinic killboard? I find the points system quite useful for evaluating progress.

But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details quickly.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
#39 - 2013-05-18 06:24:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Guerrilla
Zappity wrote:
But most importantly, you can copy/paste a pilot's name directly into the URL to get their details while you to go and make a coffee. When it's done and you're back, the site is most likely done loading.
Now it sounds more accurate.

pew pew

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
#40 - 2013-05-18 06:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Guerrilla
GODDAMN SOMEONE PUT THE EDIT AND THE QUOTE BUTTON FURTHER APART FROM EACH OTHER. Oops

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