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Use D-scan, minimize local.

It's not that scary, trust me. Stop being a wuss.

And BO cynos were designed to go behind enemy lines and jammed systems.

You've been playing since 2003, I would like to have your stuff.

Cloaking isn't broken. Cyno's aren't broken. You have all the same tools available as everyone else to mitigate risks, avoid ganks & so on. Choosing not to use them is your own fault, not CCP's.

BS or bigger? No. Makes no sense. Some counter to it, skill or module? Maybe, that idea has traction



No, blackops are made to get past jammers, it is what they do.



Twice wrong. Miners have been given more tank and more options. There are folks making BILLIONS with your useless mining frigs. And NOWHERE is New Eden is supposed to be 'safe'. That is working as intended.

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The cloaking stuff has already been talked about to death (and shouldn't be changed), but as an industrialist I cannot refuse the bait you have left here, so here goes

To begin I am not a pirate, I have never ganked, I do not scam and rarely PVP. I am a miner. I build ships, weapons and ammo. More recently I've started getting into exploration. I am not here to flame you, I am here to try and show you just how flawed everything you've said is.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-inferno-1.2
That link is the patch notes for Inferno 1.2. In there if you scroll down just past halfway, there is a part where they list the changes made to mining barges and exhumers. That was a sizable buff to the defenses of those ships, quite a positive change for mining.

The Venture is not useless. Far from it in fact. It serves two purposes: 1, Allowing new players to get into a serious dedicated mining ship a hell of a lot faster than before and 2, Acting as a cheap ship you can mine in dangerous areas in. As Mike as already said, there are people making literally billions using the Venture.

As far as the 'safe space' is concerned, that is completely by design. Eve is all about player created conflict and types of emergent gameplay. Every aspect of the game is PvP, including mining (getting to the ore first before the belt has been mined, hauling the ore back to a trade hub without getting ganked, competing with other players to get the best price on the minerals are all Player vs Player). The game has been marketed for as long as I can remember as a cold, harsh, unsafe environment where success is fought for, not given to you on a silver platter.

The game does allow for all types of gameplay, but just like a literal sandbox, some kids like building sandcastles and others like to kick them over. You have to accept that people play differently to you even though that might be at odds with how you like to play and could even lead to conflict between you. I have been ganked a couple of times in the last few months, and yet I can say both times I learned something and both times it was my fault. I ignored the rules I had in place to stop that sort of stuff happening.

Also, 'honour' is a concept that only favours the loser so of course you think there is no honour. 1 v 1 exists (just ask the RvB guys how many 1 v 1's they can get). Also a 'cheap tactic' is just something that you haven't taken advantage of yet.

So instead of posting a ragequit thread and complaining that CCP doesn't love you anymore, maybe you can learn from the mistakes you've made and try to avoid them in the future. I hope you actually read this, and understand where I am coming from.

PS. That 10 year collectors package is not a money grab. It is something for people like me who love Eve and want something to show for it. Just because you don't want it, doesn't mean others don't.

I live in a place where local doesn't exist, and as such, afk cloaking doesn't exist.

It doesn't stop me at all, in fact I like it. I find myself more immersed in the game, paying more attention.

Stop being scared.

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