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[DFE.] No One is Innocent

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Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-05-14 18:33:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Kithrus
The last 5 years have been both the hardest, saddest and yet enriching years of my life. As much as I'm sure there is more to come I feel its important that a little retrospect is in order.

I'm not going to rehash the last 5 years for you, you were there after all with me or against me or witnessing from around me or far away. What I am going to lay out is the truth of my actions and yours.

I'm the son of a holder, I'm 36 years old. I have known love and loss. I have watched my lover die giving birth to my son and faced the sin of my crime in her passing. I become a pilot to free myself of my family but as a result wasn't there to defend my father from his own past so I had to become the Lord.

I believe in the scripture but I am a man of science and I have watched us tear each other apart over the slightest err in judgement.

I watched a friend of mine leave her republic to die alone a slow spiritual death in null sec where her own people sought to banish her then reform her. I watched a dear Amarrian friend parish in a accident that too him and his wife from us when the clustered needed true hearts. I watched another man I consider a friend embraces the darkness in hopes of making a lighter future. I watched my first student rise to be named by some as child of the stars for her wisdom at such a young age. I watched enemies I respected go so far as to attack their own allies in the name of justice...

In the end we all do what we can with what little truth we have before us. I am not here to judge you but to ask you to have patience because not they deserve it but because dark days are always coming and ever encroaching.

We stand on a cross road now where at the slightest misstep the entire cluster will plunge into complete war. So before you risk that final tipping action, before you undock or deploy... pray. If you don't believe in something call on the memory of those you love who passed. Ask if what your about to do is just, is it God's will is it something you will shed a tear for in you final hours.

Even the Amarr are not so innocent, we Khanid learned that change is required but even God demanded we return to the empire to be made accountable by assisting in these times.

I'm afraid honestly, those I love, my wife, my son, Maria... those I fly with, work with, respect it could all end tomorrow even for us and we are far from heaven bound. Pray, meditate, reflect but remember we are all sinners and little forgiveness could go a long way in restoring peace.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#2 - 2013-05-15 01:49:46 UTC
I want you to know that I am not trying to be coy or argumentative. I sincerely mean what I am about to say.

There is a good deal of truth in what you say, self-reflection, mercy, forgiveness, tolerance, all virtues indeed.

But here is the thing, I don’t plan on having a last day. That's why I traded my soul for this jack in the back of my head.

We are things apart, aliens to the natural order. We may pretend to others and even ourselves, mimicking old habits, retaining familiar guises. But the person we were is dust.

I admire the desire to be better than what and who we are, in any person, but in the end don’t you think its a bit pointless?
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-15 01:57:43 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:


I admire the desire to be better than what and who we are, in any person, but in the end don’t you think its a bit pointless?


That question comes down to the individual.

A religious person will answer "Nonsense! How else am I going to have a happy afterlife?"

Some secular people will state "Of course! All that matters is what I do now!"

Other secular people will say "Nope! It may not matter later but I just want to better myself!"

Personally I believe that our virtual immortality makes it very important that we better ourselves. We don't have to rush, we're going to be around for a while, but all the more reason we should. Think about it, time is completely irrelevant to us. If we wanted, we could hatch a plan that would carry over to the next 300 years. Eventually, with this endless amount of time, we are bound to wind up impacting the world significantly, either as part of a group or just us on our own. And if we have bettered ourselves, then we could better the whole universe.

Or we could shout and shoot at each other endlessly, which seems to be the trend we are currently on.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-05-15 04:34:58 UTC
If not for the closing mention of forgiveness I would almost think a different, harsher interpretation of Scripture was starting to take hold of your heart.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-05-15 05:22:45 UTC
Kithrus wrote:

We stand on a cross road now where at the slightest misstep the entire cluster will plunge into complete war. So before you risk that final tipping action, before you undock or deploy... pray. If you don't believe in something call on the memory of those you love who passed. Ask if what your about to do is just, is it God's will is it something you will shed a tear for in you final hours.

I do not believe in the illusion of immortality. I realize, that every of my clones has its own consciousness, or, if you wish, a soul. It is only memory that we share. I am a combat pilot, and death is inevitable for me. When my current clone will die, I will die. It will be end for me, I will meet my ancestors, and my next clones will continue my job in this world.

I don't have time to pray before each operation, but I pray each morning when I get up. And I don't ask for forgiveness, for pity, for power, for wealth, for health, for immortality or for guidance. The only thing I pray for is, should this day be the last day of my life, to meet my death with honor.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-05-15 13:40:44 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
I want you to know that I am not trying to be coy or argumentative. I sincerely mean what I am about to say.

There is a good deal of truth in what you say, self-reflection, mercy, forgiveness, tolerance, all virtues indeed.

But here is the thing, I don’t plan on having a last day. That's why I traded my soul for this jack in the back of my head.

We are things apart, aliens to the natural order. We may pretend to others and even ourselves, mimicking old habits, retaining familiar guises. But the person we were is dust.

I admire the desire to be better than what and who we are, in any person, but in the end don’t you think its a bit pointless?


No, you may ask me whats the point of becoming better as an endless cycle of improvement is endless but an endless cycle or degradation only leads to destruction.

Maybe you could argue it was okay when the natural order still hold sway of us but it doesn't.

Hogs for example are very destructive creatures. They tear up turf, savage plant-life of all sorts and move on to green pastures. They are kept in check by predators lest they destroy the environment for everyone. Whats interesting though is hogs when penned and domesticated will refuse to defecate except in their mud holes.

Farming analogy aside one could argue that like the hog our lives have changed we are not treated by the natural order of life and death as we once knew it. we must order ourselves and improve ourselves.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Anslo
Scope Works
#7 - 2013-05-15 13:47:49 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

I do not believe in the illusion of immortality. I realize, that every of my clones has its own consciousness, or, if you wish, a soul. It is only memory that we share. I am a combat pilot, and death is inevitable for me. When my current clone will die, I will die. It will be end for me, I will meet my ancestors, and my next clones will continue my job in this world.

I don't have time to pray before each operation, but I pray each morning when I get up. And I don't ask for forgiveness, for pity, for power, for wealth, for health, for immortality or for guidance. The only thing I pray for is, should this day be the last day of my life, to meet my death with honor.


You know, when you're not being a racist nut or spewing acidic hate, you're a very stable, honorable, and upstanding person. I like your outlook on life as posted. Let me know when (if) you get over your anger issues. When you do, let's have a beer.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-05-15 18:37:33 UTC
I would prefer to jump on a nozzle of 425mm railgun turret than to drink with a gallente.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anslo
Scope Works
#9 - 2013-05-15 18:41:32 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I would prefer to jump on a nozzle of 425mm railgun turret than to drink with a gallente.


Could be arranged.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#10 - 2013-05-15 18:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Theobar Cresthill
Diana Kim wrote:
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Please delete this before the inevitable storm of inappropriate comments that are soon to follow

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#11 - 2013-05-15 22:01:23 UTC
Telling her to delete the comment while quoting it yourself.

Seems legit.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-05-16 01:03:13 UTC
This is why we can't have nice things

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Tatiana Yazria
Dragon Logistics
#13 - 2013-05-16 11:03:46 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I would prefer to jump on a nozzle of 425mm railgun turret than to drink with a gallente.


Could be arranged.


I would be pleased to chaperone this. It would consist of me beating your heads against the railgun's frame till whatever it is that is wrong with them are leaking out. Am I understood? Good.

Kithrus wrote:

No, you may ask me whats the point of becoming better as an endless cycle of improvement is endless but an endless cycle or degradation only leads to destruction.

Maybe you could argue it was okay when the natural order still hold sway of us but it doesn't.

Hogs for example are very destructive creatures. They tear up turf, savage plant-life of all sorts and move on to green pastures. They are kept in check by predators lest they destroy the environment for everyone. Whats interesting though is hogs when penned and domesticated will refuse to defecate except in their mud holes.

Farming analogy aside one could argue that like the hog our lives have changed we are not treated by the natural order of life and death as we once knew it. we must order ourselves and improve ourselves.


I am not a young woman - that much I should hope would be apparent. Yes, that is my natural gray, thank you.

You are clearly going through a crisis of faith. I am no Priest, but it is something I understand better than most. I have had more than my fair share of them.

The greatest sin is to wrong, when you know what is right. Of this there can be no question. But what are we to do when the answer is not so clear, or not present at all? Are we to turn a blind eye to matters, and pretend they do not exist? Do we label them sin, and pray to be freed from them?

Or do we confront them with a righteous purpose, to try and determine what is wrong and what is right?

With much pain....
Fredfredbug4 wrote:

That question comes down to the individual.

A religious person will answer "Nonsense! How else am I going to have a happy afterlife?"


The question I know the answer for by heart: you know you are going to have a happy afterlife only if you do what you know to be right. That is all it requires. If you do wrong in the attempt to do right, then you must correct that wrong. But no man nor woman with a righteous heart needs suffer.

Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Personally I believe that our virtual immortality makes it very important that we better ourselves. We don't have to rush, we're going to be around for a while, but all the more reason we should.
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Or we could shout and shoot at each other endlessly, which seems to be the trend we are currently on.


On this matter, I am almost embarrassed to admit, I agree wholeheartedly.

Shouting and shooting at each other gets us nowhere. There is a time and place for war - but this is not war. It is just madness shooting at shadows. We have the time to consider these matters - the time some of us had before the advent of the capsule. But the young children who can fly among the stars take over, and insist we listen to them and no others, for they know these things best.

I spit on these claims.

Those who know best are the ones who have held empires together for thousands of years. Whether or not you disagree with their methods and machinations, they have succeeded where others will fail. These are the people we should turn to, and seek wisdom from. Our potential is, as the saying goes, limitless. Save for our own foolishness.
Adreena Madeveda
Sebiestor Tribe
#14 - 2013-05-16 12:01:00 UTC
Tatiana Yazria wrote:

Those who know best are the ones who have held empires together for thousands of years. Whether or not you disagree with their methods and machinations, they have succeeded where others will fail. These are the people we should turn to, and seek wisdom from.


I'd rather make every mistake possible than follow this one, bloody handed Truth.

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Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#15 - 2013-05-16 12:12:02 UTC
Adreena Madeveda wrote:
Tatiana Yazria wrote:

Those who know best are the ones who have held empires together for thousands of years. Whether or not you disagree with their methods and machinations, they have succeeded where others will fail. These are the people we should turn to, and seek wisdom from.


I'd rather make every mistake possible than follow this one, bloody handed Truth.


Truth?

I refute that.

The powers that be can and must be challenged. If they have held together empires for thousands of years, forge your own to stand for tens of thousands of years. This is our imperative not as Capsuleers but as human beings.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Adreena Madeveda
Sebiestor Tribe
#16 - 2013-05-16 13:16:02 UTC
If there is such a thing as "human being imperative", I highly doubt it consists of forging thousand years lasting empires. Each to their own, I guess.

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Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#17 - 2013-05-16 14:16:28 UTC
Adreena Madeveda wrote:
If there is such a thing as "human being imperative", I highly doubt it consists of forging thousand years lasting empires. Each to their own, I guess.


You let that go completely over your head.

No, our imperative is iteration.

We strive for refinement. We work for varying degrees of imperfection.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.