EVE New Citizens Q&A

Don't join a corp if you're not looking to fight other players.

O in other words your basing this assumption on what you have read on the forums (sorry to break it to you but most people use the forums to complain) or on people that have left high sec because they are unhappy and think that those people represent all off EVE?

High sec has its advantages, and its negative sides just like anywhere else in EVE. I doubt you will claim that 0.0 is perfect in every way or form.

But there are corps in high sec that have managed to archive something, even if you consider their goals small and meaningless.
This can be anything from becoming a dedicated training corp (EVE uni), freight corp (Red Frog), known third party traders (Otherworld Enterprises), numerous merc corporations, big industrialists, specialized traders, dedicated incursion corps and the list goes on! Just because a corp name does not make the EVE news or the name is not a "Ohh i know who they are!" it does not mean that they did not succeed at whatever they set out to do.

The point here is, you do not "need" to be in 0.0 to do something "worthy" or "special". Everyone has a place in EVE, and there are so many fields to cover. And yes, empire corps do get war decced, and yes its rougher for an empire corp then a 0.0 corp but most older corps have ways around this, just like a 0.0 corp has found ways to work around that 1 afk cloaking pilot that makes everyone uneasy about undocking

I would also like to say that like with 0.0, many people in empire simply does not care and try to keep up with the politics and who is great and who is bad and who got robbed and who lost space and who gained space and who reset who. Just like people in 0.0 does not always bother to try and keep up with who is doing what in empire.
And honestly, even if its a corp that has not done something you or I would feel is great, or something to be proud off, dont they still have the right to feel proud about archiving something they consider awesome?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235836&find=unread

Please enlighten me....I thought lowsec / null never complained...

And...backing out already.

Let me quote your post:




Now. Where in that post do you specify any type of corp.

You say DO NOT join ANY high sec corp, not do not join a "jack of all trades, master of none" corp


Then next post:



Yeah. ALL low-sec corps are well known...ooh wait. All null-corps are known through out EVe...ooh wait. And the majority of the whines on forums are:

CCP please fix Tech - Nullsec.
CCP please fix cloaky camping - null-sec
CCP please fix supers - Null-sec (anti PL)
CCP please fix blobbing - Null-sec.

Sure sometimes you get a high-sec whiner on the forums. But in sheer % of players living in a certain space, there are more whines related to null-sec then high-sec.

As in, he probably went on to get himself blown up even after an FC warning that wartargets had been spotted in his system and to stay docked. Some people never learn and will keep feeding newb pvpers who deck the UNI.. The UNI has so many people and the corps deccing it are so small that consider it an exploit to get yourself killed lulz.

To the OP just find yourself a remote system to mission/mine/explore in and you'll be just fine even during a wardec. Look how big the EVE-universe is and how small most corps are + they usually fly in groups. When you see them enter your system (small chance) just dock up and you'll be fine. Beats running and screaming with your tail between legs like some coward dog any day. Btw, nothing wrong with getting your ship blown up, it's part of the game..

99.9999% of hisec corps are terrible jackoff trades all corps. The ones you listed are good, but 4 of them aren't normal corps (Arador, RvB and Uni), Chribba's one man corp you can't join, Frog requires you have a freighter so it leaves one good corp a new player could actually join, PUSH. Well done.




Those are whines about game mechanics, not about how much their own corps suck.

My corporation has never been decced as a corporation, always as part of an Alliance. Still, the corp was outside of any alliance for quite some time. We played without one for months, and never recieved a wardec. That being said, little visible mining was done as we focussed more on missions to make ISK in the beginning days. Partly it's just good luck, on the other hand as soon as we got some more members we quite early made lowsec familiar terrain and found ourselves having 99 problems, but a wardec aint one. It's simply a hisec issue and OP had terrible luck stumbing into corps in his early carreer. It's not supposed to happen, but it can happen, welcome to the sandbox OP. Just kick it untill it budges.

Whatever your carebear or leet peeveepee CEO thinks of it, handle wars your way. You can stay docked, you can group up and try to get kills by blobbing them with inferior ships. Chances of succes are low-ish depending on your pvp skills, but when it works you will have the killmail of the week and a good reason to add some insult to injury in local. And that's a lot more fun then staying docked in my opinion. Unlike popular belief, acting in this manner does not motivate a for-profit player to keep deccing your corp. It's those stupid towers you forgot to fuel, or that one time you had a really big mouth in local without backing up your claim. Maybe you scammed a rich player out of quite some ISK? Or you are known for having lots of players in the corp that autopilot through hisec?

If there is no direct reason for a protracted assault (aka lots of butthurt) most 'random' wars will end after a week because the opposition doesn't get it's money's worth fighting actual pvp ships. If you keep undocking haulers from Jita 4-4 there might be reason to keep that dec up though. Wardecs are just a stress test. Unlike some, I like to think the name of my corp and Alliance means something more then just a database record. Call it a sense of pride. I'm not dropping anything on account of your epeen.

A note on active recruitment: I actively recruit, during war, for war. OP never stated what a 'normal' corp exactly entails but since wardecs are normal, dealing with them is just as normal. While tied to an Alliance it's easier to batphone a more PVP oriented corp, but when you are without Alliance support it may me more difficult to recruit outside of your own expertise. Get your CEO to do that or to delegate that task to someone capable, lets call him the chief of security as it where. Discretion is key here. Approach people individually and politely. Don't go flaunt with your profitable mining ops in Hek.