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I want to see the other Tier 3 BC's

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#41 - 2011-10-25 17:58:40 UTC
I think naga is a bad name... Could be miss pronounced when you see more then one on grid... Examples we have 5 nagas on the gate

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#42 - 2011-10-25 17:59:47 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
forumsUgh

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#43 - 2011-10-25 18:00:24 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
ForumsUgh

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Wild Rho
The Gentleman's Club
#44 - 2011-10-25 18:05:03 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
So as it stands?
No tank, resist or rep bonuses of any kind? I highly doubt that Shocked


It makes sense if they're being designed as glass cannons.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#45 - 2011-10-25 18:16:27 UTC
Efraya wrote:

Naga
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets 40% reduction in the powergrid need of Siege Missile Launchers 58% reduction in the CPU need of Siege Missile Launchers


anyone see something odd here?

"Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity"

" reduction in the powergrid need of Siege Missile Launchers 58% reduction in the CPU need of Siege Missile Launchers"

AND

"reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets 40%"

O.o
bonuses to torps nut no reduction for them, no bonuses for cruise launchers but reductions for them, and Large ENERGY Turrets for Caldari?

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#46 - 2011-10-25 18:21:38 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
I think naga is a bad name... Could be miss pronounced when you see more then one on grid... Examples we have 5 nagas on the gate


I do believe even WoW has scaled back from using that name for that reason
Along with several other things in this one patch way back when.
They renamed a axe called "The nicker" (so named because it looked like a razor), removed the Maine Coon Cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_coon_cat).

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Velarra
#47 - 2011-10-25 21:01:18 UTC
http://okraf.deviantart.com/art/Naga-Frigate-182604966

Rather reminiscent of the original Scorpion and quite the contrast from Ferox and Drake.
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#48 - 2011-10-26 00:41:22 UTC
Why do they never give damage bonuses or rate of fire bonuses to missile boats, well besides the Tengu?? There are no faction missile boats that can compete damage wise the other faction BS, and the same applies for the new ships. I really don't need my missiles to travel for 100km, I would prefer them to do more damage at closer ranges...
Catlos JeminJees
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#49 - 2011-10-26 00:45:40 UTC
grumpyguts1 wrote:
Why do they never give damage bonuses or rate of fire bonuses to missile boats, well besides the Tengu?? There are no faction missile boats that can compete damage wise the other faction BS, and the same applies for the new ships. I really don't need my missiles to travel for 100km, I would prefer them to do more damage at closer ranges...


Then use torpedos
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#50 - 2011-11-03 16:17:50 UTC
A Nightmare with Tachyons at 40km can do 850dps... show me a missile boat that can do that
Amro One
One.
#51 - 2011-11-03 16:19:11 UTC
Tengu
Chi Ftele
Doomheim
#52 - 2011-11-03 16:33:54 UTC
Naga's a torpo bomber? my favourite!

I've loved these ever since Freespace 2

hope the wait til the prices stabilize isn't too long

That is all.

grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#53 - 2011-11-03 18:50:34 UTC
Amro One wrote:
Tengu


show fit??
Sage Revinour
Only Fools or Horses
#54 - 2011-11-03 20:29:33 UTC
You guys do realize the new ships are first-strike ganking ships, yeah? They aren't mission or gang ships... Blink
Black Dranzer
#55 - 2011-11-03 20:32:10 UTC
Sage Revinour wrote:
They aren't mission or gang ships

Challenge accepted.
Michael J Caboose
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2011-11-03 20:45:52 UTC
grumpyguts1 wrote:
Amro One wrote:
Tengu


show fit??


This gets there, 44.3 km range, 832 dps, 967 with overheat. Add ZMM100 and ZME2000 implants and you get 916/1064.

[Tengu, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers


Chi Ftele
Doomheim
#57 - 2011-11-03 20:57:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Chi Ftele
Sage Revinour wrote:
You guys do realize the new ships are first-strike ganking ships, yeah? They aren't mission or gang ships... Blink


there's always a place for a unit with big guns, just send the tank in to draw attention and let the bc3 clean up

I'm thinking drake tank with various bc3s for extra punch plus a number of heavy frigs, a solid, flexible strike team that can even go ratting in 0.0 while being faster than a battleship and able to engage greater numbers of smaller targets more easily

not to mention it won't cost 60-100 mil or more to refit if it all goes to hell

so yeah, they're gonna kick ass, pvx-style

That is all.

OmniBeton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#58 - 2011-11-03 22:44:00 UTC
Rhinanna wrote:
Quote:
Naga
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.


If this is the case then they damm well better give all the crappy dual-weap minmatar ships another bonus, cos as it stands that is really not right. They suck as it is cos of dual weapons and needing to use dual bonuses to get the same effect as 1 bonus on other ships.


As far as it's torpedo velocity bonus, Im ok with that


Seriously, this ship is crap. The same useless turret range bonus as other caldari gunships have (when was the last time you've seen caldari gunship in serious fight - solo, small gang or fleet ?)
And no damage bonus for torpedos. What's the point ?
Nimrod Nemesis
Doomheim
#59 - 2011-11-03 23:08:19 UTC
OmniBeton wrote:
The same useless turret range bonus as other caldari gunships have (when was the last time you've seen caldari gunship in serious fight - solo, small gang or fleet ?)
And no damage bonus for torpedos. What's the point ?


This should be the prompt for a new devblog.
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