EVE General Discussion

ccp should make it if you leave a war decced corp you cannot re-join any corp or make a corp for one week. take that game mechanic and make it mean something.

otherwise EVE Online will become musical corps...

Andski
reading through this thread, im not really sure, where to start with your reasoning. wich i think is fundamentaly flawed. but oh well, first off, this is a sandbox, its a game, a game that tries to have a realistic working economy, this sandbox is more then shooting things up, ewen i as a noob realices this, what you ask for, is being able to pick and fight your targets like every other brainless MMO out there, with no realistic consequenses thats its done inside a HIGH SECURITY SPACE, im not saying you should be "safe" , but there is a big difrence, to having some kind of security, then non, wich you ask for, there is a reason why Eve is devided into three areas. high, low and null, its one thing thats defined Eve from the start, what you are asking for is Eve with null all ower, no consequence what so ewer. i think you should try use the mind you were gifted with, and think about those three areas and what they should be.

i can agree that profits in low and null should be higher, but i sort of dont think this is the problem. hearing of the profits null sec people can make, there are things that just dont add up, you have loads of big corps down in null, how about fighting them instead of whining on high sec people, many that are trying to form a corp or learn the game.

I for one, hope high sec stays as it is, or get safer, alow people in high sec create corps, build up a wealth and grow. you know eventually that might lead to those guilds will head down in low and null and give you folks down there something to shoot at, isent that what you want ?. so instead you want to shot and kill every effort people invest of trying to form build up a corp, so they have to dispand, wich leads to . honestly what your asking for is like shooting yorself in the foot with a bow and arrow ! there is things that good for you, and there is things thats good for eve

lol we're still pretending risk/reward applies to highsec?

Thre are more ways to make money in EVE then just building stuff you know.

As long as there are Incursions, exploration and Level 4's, carebears will be fine.

You act like if stuff isnt being built, no one is making isk. Game doest work like that.

Funny thing is, if all the PvP'ers left, people would be running level 5 missions, making even more money, getting caps blown up in the process.

Yes, we need people to blow stuff up the keep the economy going, but there are mechanics in place to make endless streams of money without the need to build stuff.

The demand would also proportionally increase since there would be less people overall producing things, but either way, we'd manage.

Even if what you say turned out to be true, I remember the days when regular T2 modules cost 10-15 million ISK each and we did pvp just fine.


I think it's kind of cute that you think losses from pve even begin to compare with losses from pvp. Reality check: if players like myself weren't blowing stuff up, your CNR would cost sixty billion right now, if ISK still held any value at all; much more likely some kind of barter economy would emerge instead.

By what, rats?

As I've said, PvP outside of suicide ganking (which has been heavily nerfed, with further nerfs being a realistic possibility) has essentially been removed from hisec. Sure, you might say that PvP between consenting entities will be there, but one side will immediately stop consenting when the deck isn't stacked in their favor.

I guess CCP should stop calling EVE a "cold harsh universe" because it's absolutely not. It's rapidly becoming another generic themepark game where players mindlessly grind into boredom, while nobody can touch them, before leaving to a game that simply does it better.

I understand that you decided to subscribe to a game labeled as a "cold, harsh universe" and you misinterpreted that as "a game where nobody will touch you, a cuddly carebear land." When you realized you were wrong, why didn't you head off to a game more suited for you than the polar opposite of what you were expecting, instead opting to try to ruin the game for those of us who actually enjoy it the way it is?

EVE can't survive on people like you. It'd be dead within months, just like SWG.

did you just drew a "eve is dying" conclusion out of the removal of a waiting time that was nothing but a nuisance?

if a corp got wardecced they just call it a day and drop corp, in the event they decided not to fight. now they can just drop corp and be done with it.

how is that different from before? they still have assets they need to evacuate, and they still have 24 hrs of warning to do so.

how is having to spin ships for 24 hrs, then going back to whatever they were doing is different from not spinning ships for 24 hrs?


is your argument really going to be " well if they don't want to fight, they they must take a 24hr time out", because if it is so, then its really stupid. sorry, i want to be on your side, because i agree that corp hopping sucks, but if they fight is has to be because they want to. not because some overly contrived set of rules forced them to.

I have to concur. Of all the things to get a hernia over: highsec pvp isnt' what I'd pick. Non-consentual pvp in empire has never required a wardec and that's the cold harsh wonder of EVE. The day you legitimately need a wardec to grief anyone in empire space is the day EVE dies.