Wormholes

It was mentioned at the exploration roundtable.
They weren't sure but they though the % was now in a tooltip if you hover over it.
But basicly the system hasn't changed just how it is shown.
But maybe the csm's should point them to this thread, i seem to remember meeting a dev in the pubcrawl that wanted to know how we used them.
But i can't remeber who, to much beer :p.

Imagine my surprise that when I logged onto Sisi tonight my beloved deeps were gone.

My scanning technique involves 4 deeps and 4 combats so not sure why deeps have been removed. I'd love to see them put back in and allow for preset scanning formations using multiple probe types.

My 2 isk.

Let's face it, the only reason to ever launch a DSP is to cover a whole system that is larger than 64au with a single probe when checking for new sigs.
Actually probing with them is LOL terrible and the sig strength identification method works better with combat probes anyway.

This upsets me mightily.

I've just logged into my fav WH scanning calculation website and I see a huge message at the top in red saying that DSPs are getting removed on June 4th. CCP WTF?!

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp/lowsec.html?str=11.60&f=5&sec=1

I know you can use core and combat probes in the same fashion but this is going to make scanning new static connections a serious ball ache. Scanning already takes up a lot of time in WH space but now it's going to take several times longer, especially if you connect to a new system with many sigs; finding the static exit to k space is going to be a pain.

Just my two cents.

guys I'd visit this thread and leave a reply as to why we need the 8th probe back along with some other adjustments.

Atm all the nullbears are shadowing us over with nullsites tweaks and dumb suggestion and especially our voices need to be heard!
If this doesn't happen I think this will cause a lot of pain on the casual daily life with us WH dudes when the patch comes out.

Anyone else use the DSPs for pinpointing fat-ass boats to drop right on top of?I do and have convinced myself that even if its one time in ten that they've seen DSPs and not Combats and thus havent immediately hit warp-to-gtfo then they worth using/keeping in game.

Can i ask them maybe better in the know-am i reading it correct that the new discovery scanner is going to be showing the appearance of any new sigs. that appear in a system(with auto-repeat as well?!!)......pfft.

This is not true. They are excellent when used with combats for scanning down sigs. I use them and this scanning change dumbs down the whole process to push buttan, get sigs.

I can't believe CCP ran this by any CSM because I'd hope they'd call this nerf out.

I also spent some time on SiSi tinkering with the new probe system. For anyone that hasn't, I suggest you do so and familiarize yourself with the new system. At first I really hated it because it is just not the same and muscle memory/changing techniques is a ***** TBH. As I used it and learned how it is different, I found that it really is a tad quicker now (unless you are a scanning God). One of the formations, I forget which, I think is useless due to huge gaps in the probe coverage. But maybe that's just me being OCD. The other formation works though, and you can of course still move the probes individually by hitting the "Shift" key. Dragging the "bubbles" in the map took some getting used to to change probe range... But manipulating the probe ranges and formation is not intuitive at first, and takes some getting used to. All in all, it is definitely easier.

Regarding people like wh dwellers that scan all the time, with the loss of probe 8, the DSP, and ONLY being able to launch 7 at a time (correct, you can't launch just 1 anymore), I think it is a downgrade to what we have now. For the noobs, it makes life easier. It even has Auto-Reload now. So the upside to all this is hopefully we will have more targets scanning down wh and seeing what they are about. As a 7 probe scanner, other than not being able to keep an eye on sigs in an entire system using a single DSP, and having to get used to the new mechanics, I don't really see a huge downside to the changes...

Well just flipped to the feedback thread and I see CCP are already working on putting the 8th probe back due to overwhelming demand (and making other tweaks). I'll try to give the new changes a run tonight. See:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3006640#post3006640

I have removed some trolling from this thread.