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Sirran The Lunatic
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#121 - 2013-05-12 12:51:16 UTC
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but please add a "save location" radial menu button do the "Your ship" menu.

Yes, I'm aware in-space objects have it, but if you want to midpoint safe you still need people/places open, it seems. Having it on your radial menu would just be awesome.

As for general feedback, I do like it them somewhat... the previous iteration was just annoying. Although I don't see a way to disable them or change what button activates it.

Let's say I want to pan my camera around but had my mouse on an object (very easy if zoomed in or near a large ship/station), I open a radial menu instead, accidentally drag my warp-to default distance to 100, try to warp somewhere and ...derp, I'm at 100.

See the issue I'm having with it being forced on me? I suppose it'd be easy enough to avoid, just avoid clicking on any object in space while panning a camera... but , how annoying is that? I played with this some and found myself setting various default ranges by accident.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#122 - 2013-05-12 13:02:38 UTC
Sirran The Lunatic wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but please add a "save location" radial menu button do the "Your ship" menu.

Yes, I'm aware in-space objects have it, but if you want to midpoint safe you still need people/places open, it seems. Having it on your radial menu would just be awesome.

Holy ****, yes please.
This is an excellent idea.

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Anja Talis
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal
#123 - 2013-05-12 13:19:45 UTC
If I'm on grid with an acceleration gate, I can't open the radial menu on it from space. Also, if I right click it, I don't have the normal options, just warp to, warp to x and bookmark.

Normal options are still there for it off the overview.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#124 - 2013-05-12 15:23:40 UTC
Now that we have a nice new radial menu that works are we getting the camera options that where tested last release but where removed because they lacked a way to tell what mode the camera was in and could be changed to?

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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#125 - 2013-05-12 17:55:03 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:

One of the things we will most likely be doing is to allow you to map the radial menu to any mouse button (except probably right click), and also probably allowing you to set the delay (so you could have an instant radial menu on the middle mouse button or something). We think that will address a lot of your concerns.Smile

Yay, thank you! Big smile

Can you also make when we click scanner button that it will actually open scanner window and not just show us new radial menu around it.
ISquishWorms
#126 - 2013-05-13 02:14:22 UTC  |  Edited by: ISquishWorms
When I activate this new Radial Menu my mouse slows down and becomes laggy to respond. I am also unable to move the mouse pointer to the right hand edge of my screen I can get within about 2.5cm of the edge. Currently unimpressed Ugh

On a plus note it is forcing me to learn all the keyboard short cuts to just avoid using it.

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Legault Revan
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2013-05-13 04:16:45 UTC
I don't know if anyone else has tried to move around the enemies you have targeted, but you can't click and drag them to different positions because of the radial menu. If I target something tagged as 1 and 2, but I lock number 2 before number one, then I normally like to switch the two targets on my UI. I can no longer do this. Also, when doing logi, placing my targets in a specific order is something that is very important for me to be able to do, but the radial menu prevents this. Is there some way to reorder my locked targets that I'm missing? It seems that clicking and dragging most things in space would probably result in the radial menu popping up, rather than just dragging the info from whatever you click.
Cpt Arareb
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#128 - 2013-05-13 04:22:59 UTC
just whatch jonhny pew video about this radial thing, and, I must say, I was ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked +1
CCP Fear
C C P
C C P Alliance
#129 - 2013-05-13 09:58:57 UTC
Cpt Arareb wrote:
just whatch jonhny pew video about this radial thing, and, I must say, I was ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked +1


Link?
CCP Fear
C C P
C C P Alliance
#130 - 2013-05-13 10:03:20 UTC
Just want to address a few things here;


  • We are adding a delay setting, so that you can adjust the time it takes for it to appear on press and hold
  • We are re-adding the option to map it to different mouse-keys (and not just L/C/R buttons)
  • We are not making it customizable. We are utilizing a schema which makes primary actions on top, navigation on 45°angles, lock/unlock is down and show info is left and Right is more options. It helps with muscle memory to have them in a consistent place. Dynamic is just hard to implement correctly and it's better to have it consistent from the beginning.
  • We are looking into the mouse-speed issue, but haven't been able to reproduce it in-house (Please bug-report as much as possible).


I think that's basically it for now.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2013-05-13 10:25:59 UTC
CCP Fear wrote:
Cpt Arareb wrote:
just whatch jonhny pew video about this radial thing, and, I must say, I was ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked +1


Link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUv73akegEM

In return:
Could you add "bookmark current location" to the radial menu for your own ship? Please? That would be amazing.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2013-05-13 10:43:58 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
CCP Fear wrote:
Cpt Arareb wrote:
just whatch jonhny pew video about this radial thing, and, I must say, I was ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked +1


Link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUv73akegEM

In return:
Could you add "bookmark current location" to the radial menu for your own ship? Please? That would be amazing.

So very much this.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#133 - 2013-05-13 10:50:55 UTC
Legault Revan wrote:
I don't know if anyone else has tried to move around the enemies you have targeted, but you can't click and drag them to different positions because of the radial menu. If I target something tagged as 1 and 2, but I lock number 2 before number one, then I normally like to switch the two targets on my UI. I can no longer do this. Also, whens this. Is there some way to reorder my locked target doing logi, placing my targets in a specific order is something that is very important for me to be able to do, but the radial menu prevents that I'm missing? It seems that clicking and dragging most things in space would probably result in the radial menu popping up, rather than just dragging the info from whatever you click.

Yes, you can still move them aroundSmile

You know how you had to hold it down for a while before the target would pop out and you could move it? We had to change it so you could use the radial menu on the targets.
So now the targets no longer pop out like that, but just behave like any other drag: start dragging and you get a "ghost" target that you move and the target is not actually moved until you drop it.
I like this much better than having the targets randomly pop out.Smile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#134 - 2013-05-13 10:51:48 UTC
tgl3 wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

In return:
Could you add "bookmark current location" to the radial menu for your own ship? Please? That would be amazing.

So very much this.

Yes Smile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Tub Chil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#135 - 2013-05-13 10:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tub Chil
I don't like that buttons like jump, lock, dock etc. have changed location. I was using radial menu a lot and it's hard to change reflexes.
Also "look at" button should not be hidden under + imo, i use it a lot.

Using radial on overview is very good tho.
Rammix
TheMurk
#136 - 2013-05-13 12:24:21 UTC
CCP Fear wrote:
We are not making it customizable. We are utilizing a schema which makes primary actions on top, navigation on 45°angles, lock/unlock is down and show info is left and Right is more options. It helps with muscle memory to have them in a consistent place. Dynamic is just hard to implement correctly and it's better to have it consistent from the beginning.

I hope you will extend its functionality and flexibility in the future. Blink

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Rammix
TheMurk
#137 - 2013-05-13 12:31:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Rammix
del, never mind

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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#138 - 2013-05-13 12:42:11 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
tgl3 wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

In return:
Could you add "bookmark current location" to the radial menu for your own ship? Please? That would be amazing.

So very much this.

Yes Smile

Stop spoiling your players! Say no to something. Evil

Now on a more serious note this is just too awesome.
CCP Sisyphus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#139 - 2013-05-13 14:41:19 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:

Stop spoiling your players! Say no to something. Evil


NO U!

CCP Sisyphus | Team TriLambda | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus
Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#140 - 2013-05-13 15:22:01 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
tgl3 wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

In return:
Could you add "bookmark current location" to the radial menu for your own ship? Please? That would be amazing.

So very much this.

Yes Smile


Congratulations, you've just made the radial menu 1000% better Big smile