EVE General Discussion

Space is a liquid.

As if this thread wasn't already ridiculous enough, then someone says that...

FAtard OP is trying to destroy eve with his Wow/fps refugee disciples. The current control method is perfect IMO... Do some fleet pvp and this becomes abundantly clear.

Even if it could be done by CCP I wouldn't want it.

You want the ultimate lore reason why we dont have flight sticks.

Drum roll.....

We use thoughts to control the ship not flight sticks!

Yes, and if you introduced point and click style gameplay into Call of Duty, 90% of its players would quit.

It's a case of horses for courses old chap, and the current control system is the perfect horse for the the Eve course.

Now your argument would be valid if CPU worked per set number of clients. Alas, it works per set number of solar systems. Are there one pilot, or 2000, it is still the same one CPU. Rewriting that will be way more work than optimizing database you talk so much.





And what exactly changes in a nature of stored data and the way you work with it, be it current system or WASD ? It is all the same essentially, just need to be performed n times more frequent.



Again, all the pilots in one node are on the same one CPU. While I don't think transaction may increase dramatically - there is probably little point to go below 0.1 sec cycle because of an average ping, we still have about 10 times increase in updates sent, and certain calculations probably increase in a square way, making it up to 100 times. That is surely big enough number for a quite little gain.

I am in no way a database expert, but basic logic tells that there will be no specific optimization, because the very nature of processes remain the same - just their numbers increase. Or, in other words, optimization valid for current state is as well good for WASD.



Heh, for an expert you lacking some basic logic there again. It does not matter whether ship is changing steering or no. In order to "know" it, you still need to check for an input at every cycle.

And, btw, docked pilots do not count at that game. They are on completely different nodes.

Try STO, that has fantastic WASD + up/down manual flying and combat - pity the rest of the game isn't really up to scratch, but the ship-to-ship is hella fun and extremely addictive.

It's really like a 3-d version of naval combat as in POTBS, and tactical maneouvering counts for a lot (e.g. you have weps on front, rear and two sides, with firing arcs).

Nothing like maneouvering at an angle to fire front guns, swinging around majestically to fire a broadside, and then shooting a photon torpedo out of your arse for good measure Also lots of tactical choices to be made in which "officers" and modules to skill for and field too.

For my tastes, the ultimate space-game would have "dogfight"-like mechanics for frigates and cruisers, STO-style ship-to-ship for BCs and BSs, and some sort of as-current EVE-like system for capitals and supercapitals, but where it would require teamwork to fly and fight in a capital or supercapital.

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Please reread what I asked. I asked why wasn't it in the game. That is all, that is all I asked. I am perfectly fine with it not being, while I think it would be more challenging I am not adovcating it.

I have played STO, and I like it up to a point. The game is very limiting. EVE is truely dynamic. In so many ways that I could not even come close to describing them all.

how fast would holding down "A" make you turn?

100% speed?
80%
50%

what would eb your orbit radius of holding "A"?
1km, 5, 10, 60?

clicking and the comands offer much more control than holding "a" it just not as simple.

Yes, you solved the problem. Moar hardware will always solve anything, the way the game is programmed and actually sends commands and processes those commands have no impact on these things. All you need is moar hardware.

WASD movement isn't the way to go, I am not holding down the Z key on my keyboard (azerty) non stop so twitch based players can feel like they have more control. There is plenty of room for speed, precision and piloting when flying frigates with the mouse. (or even cruisers)

having that kind of flying in eve would be a massive failure

try playing independence war 2 to get a feeling of how hard it is to fly like that and why autocontrol, as it is implemented in eve is actually a blessing