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Most understated bomb shell in CCP history? New skins for how many ships?!?

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Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#41 - 2011-11-02 23:37:06 UTC
Needs moar Minmatar

The pie is a tautology
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#42 - 2011-11-03 00:24:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Well if the potential exists to do it and its not a nex type thing I fully intend to make all of my ships bone white with gold trim.

Boring? Perhaps. But i'm all about the understated fashion.

Although an all Black Abaddon sounds sinister. Twisted


I've always been fond of the "Warrior in Jet and Gold" concept myself.

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I already paid my subscription. CCP knows now that double dipping is bad.. mmkay..


While there are those that post well reasoned arguments to support exactly what you suggest, more than a few of us would rather those that really want some extra non-game affecting bling pay for it instead of everyone getting a subscription fee increase eventually.

Then there is the hard core crowd that say "You pay your sub for server access, all else is negotiable". If we were talking about something with potential game affecting consequences or a new area of game play, they would be wrong... but we are talking about a coat of paint so there is some validity in this.

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2011-11-03 01:00:16 UTC
Logan LaMort wrote:
Benilopax wrote:
Logan LaMort wrote:
I do believe only a few ships are being completely remodelled, like the Scorpion, Maller, Raven etc. Most ships are just getting a reskin with the new shaders I think, which definitely doesn't take half as much time.


Well V3d usually means some kind of redesign, and the art vid part 2 shows a remodeled navy comet and incursus I believe.

Top stuff!

Gallente pilot here.


Kinda of blurry but it really looks like the models are unchanged, they just have better textures and shaders a long with some custom skins probably being tested on them.


The punisher was done in the last expansion too. If you look close it has very very slightly changed model, and kick ass textures.

Most ships are not getting remodeled, they said that in the V3 dev blog a year ago :P But the new shares will double the normal map texture size, so those need to be rerendered as well. unless they got a lot of them on hand.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Marlakh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2011-11-03 01:00:38 UTC
Sounds all well and good. I just hope it doesnt add to the lag, or that we have to wait half a minute to load all custom textures when entering a system for those 100+ vessel fights.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-11-03 01:03:02 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)


consider leaving capital ships out and get us custom corp logos and skins for sub caps? pretty please?

I mean I'm not saying don't stop work on them, just that you can get those done later, plus no reason to leave out the new players/ GOD DAMN IT I WANT MY THUKKER TRIBE RIFTER

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Ranka Mei
TANoshii Incorporated
#46 - 2011-11-03 01:28:34 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)

The Tengu deserves at least 1 other skin. Remember, it takes two to Tengu. :)

-- "All your monies AUR belong to us!" -- CCP
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
#47 - 2011-11-03 01:49:58 UTC
Let's see if CCP actually add something to the sandbox with ship skins rather than just attempting to further macrotransaction EVE. I guess we'll see if CCP really do care for the integrity of this game.


Ranger1 wrote:
While there are those that post well reasoned arguments to support exactly what you suggest, more than a few of us would rather those that really want some extra non-game affecting bling pay for it instead of everyone getting a subscription fee increase eventually.

Then there is the hard core crowd that say "You pay your sub for server access, all else is negotiable". If we were talking about something with potential game affecting consequences or a new area of game play, they would be wrong... but we are talking about a coat of paint so there is some validity in this.
I can't agree with this, when CCP already have the PLEX system and also when I see arguments of a similar vain about how that extra microtransaction money could be used to further develop EVE gameplay that people want, that is not how it works in business.

You do realise that the EVE playerbase with their subs/PLEX'ing has allowed CCP to fund not just EVE, but two other games as well and now your trying to rationalise that they need more money from the EVE players. Take a look back at CCP's previous financial reports and you'll see that only a small percentage of the profit made actually went back into further developing EVE.

And yes I realise CCP needs to make money, but this bs about charging your playerbase yet more with microtransactions on top of what already exits (sub/PLEX) is just blatant money grubbing. Not to mention the fact that it dilutes the sandbox by removing what could be gameplay orientated content just to slap it in the cash shop.

Nex (Cash Shop) / Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future.

Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
#48 - 2011-11-03 01:56:45 UTC
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
Want!


That is so cute, it's evil.

TBH, if someone rolled up on me in that, I'd be too busy laughing my ass off to realize I've just been podded. Would make losing not only my ship, but my pod worth it.

Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.
Evelgrivion
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2011-11-03 01:58:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Evelgrivion
MotherMoon wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)


consider leaving capital ships out and get us custom corp logos and skins for sub caps? pretty please?

I mean I'm not saying don't stop work on them, just that you can get those done later, plus no reason to leave out the new players/ GOD DAMN IT I WANT MY THUKKER TRIBE RIFTER


I'd love to see the exact opposite; V3 capitals are more important than special rifters; the supercaps need new models. The V2 Titans are absolute tragedies compared to their original counterparts Cry

The Erebus used to look like this.

Now it looks like this.
Ann133566
Doomheim
#50 - 2011-11-03 02:04:41 UTC
What is and isn't comming out in the winter expansion seems to be changing by the hour. Although I'm really looking farward to it and everall I'm pleased with whats non the menu, I just want an officual release date and the final list of whats comming.
Amro One
One.
#51 - 2011-11-03 02:11:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Amro One
Now starts the era of penis (wtf censored that word) Phallus skin.
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#52 - 2011-11-03 04:14:39 UTC
Amro One wrote:
Now starts the era of ***** (wtf censored that word) Phallus skin.


CCP finally got the filter right, you can say "Penistone" or "Scunthorpe" and not get filtered, but pənis and ¢unt get filtered.

Please support: export of settings in editable format

Your stuff goes here.
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2011-11-03 09:17:39 UTC
Paragon Renegade wrote:
Needs moar Minmatar

Mooooar Kittmatar!
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#54 - 2011-11-03 09:28:17 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

While there are those that post well reasoned arguments to support exactly what you suggest, more than a few of us would rather those that really want some extra non-game affecting bling pay for it instead of everyone getting a subscription fee increase eventually.


PLEX serves this purpose. Introduce things in-game that players build that cost isk to put on your ships that get destroyed in combat and need replacing and people will need more ISK to pay for it. Rich players buy and sell PLEX to fund their ship-skin habit and problem solved. You DO NOT need an additional MT currency to solve this problem.

Additionally - having seen what we've seen of CCP's management expertise this summer one could argue that rather than needing to find extra money from the subscribers CCP could actually take a stab at running their company more efficiently with less nonsense ancillary projects in the future. They wasted a vast sum of money with WOD/Incarna being continually redesigned and restarted to absolutely no good effect. This is pure and simply project mismanagement and any half decent business consultant with knowledge of the games industry would have told them to license a working 3d engine and stop trying to reinvent the wheel from first principles while drunk on Icelandic wine.

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Then there is the hard core crowd that say "You pay your sub for server access, all else is negotiable". If we were talking about something with potential game affecting consequences or a new area of game play, they would be wrong... but we are talking about a coat of paint so there is some validity in this.


I put a coat of paint on a super-tanked Abaddon I've got tricked out with t2 armour rigs and boosted by a slave set. It becomes immensely attractive bait because of that "simple coat of paint" - it allows my gang to control and attract enemy fire and optimally apply our remote reps to frustrate enemy action. Please don't tell me that isn't game effecting.

I refute the notion that any content in this game can be classified as "pure vanity" "bling" of the kind you describe. The whole attraction of eve is its a player led economic sandbox where everything matters.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Junky Juke
Atom Heart Mothership
#55 - 2011-11-03 11:15:06 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)


ye ye ye yeeeeeeeeeeaaaahhhh!!!! Pirate
Grukni
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#56 - 2011-11-03 11:19:27 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Arugas Koken wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)


can u confirm that this wont require AUR.


It should require AUR. Its completely cosmetic.


No.

I already paid my subscription. CCP knows now that double dipping is bad.. mmkay..


If my subcription goes to paying people for new content I aggree, no new content should be double dipped. But I don't want my subscription to pay custom cosmetic stuff, so, if additional resources need to be paid to add these skins I support them being paid by AUR.
Kingston Black
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2011-11-03 12:45:51 UTC
so i can has custom logo on my windicator?


PONIES \O/

first we get to watch ponies vids in the captains quarters and now we can has ponies logos on our ships awsome ><
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#58 - 2011-11-03 12:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Grukni wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Arugas Koken wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)


can u confirm that this wont require AUR.


It should require AUR. Its completely cosmetic.


No.

I already paid my subscription. CCP knows now that double dipping is bad.. mmkay..


If my subcription goes to paying people for new content I aggree, no new content should be double dipped. But I don't want my subscription to pay custom cosmetic stuff, so, if additional resources need to be paid to add these skins I support them being paid by AUR.



I don't believe in an artifical division between content and cosmetic ... its a ridiculous nonsense.

What do you think the new nebula and engine trails are if not cosmetic - are you really arguing that we should be paying NeX to have those effects visible on our clients as well?

Customizable ship skins represent at least as much content as those two examples and should be delivered without MT in the game client.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Jenshae Chiroptera
#59 - 2011-11-03 13:14:48 UTC
Do people actually look at each other's ships or just select them from the overview?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Chi Ftele
Doomheim
#60 - 2011-11-03 14:26:08 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)


note that they added that in call of duty: black ops and most people either used some ugly combination like purple and brown for their logos or started running around with gold camo on their guns

so there had better be the option to turn logos off, at least for other players' ships

maybe even a LOL button for spotting those who have no taste at all - "primary the dictor that looks fingerpainted"

also, isn't the hello kitty thing a little played out?

That is all.