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OK, then I mixed something up. Sorry and thanks for clarification. Still new to eve

Elistea, maybe you should better follow your own suggestions next time

Thx Lutz for clarification.

there is no best ship to avoid ganks ,
a dedicated suicide crew can take down even the best tanked haulers and when they got plenty of people online even the toughest jumpfreighter

Your best defense is not to autopilot AFK, NEVER if you got valuable cargo onbpard , a scout is also very use ful or use a orca fitted for agility and speed and use the corp hangar for your valuable cargo , it can't be scanned out and will never drop,

Like i said never fly AFK autopilot and a small pro tip

If you going to jita thru the perimeter systems DO NOT warp straight to the jita gate and jump fky to marausi ( forgrot how it is spelled ) jump and then warp towards jita , nobody ever is on that gate and it is pretty safe and only takes one extra jump

Also create safe undocking points at all your stations you visit most , 9 out of 10 times when i undock from jita 4-4 in a freighter i can warp away instantly as soon i undock

MWD CLOAK tric yes and the extra agility helps to get you aligned faster , , quicker you are away from the gateless chance they will notice you when you are on a busy gate on one of the major trade routes


And don't give me that ehp crap , it will not help you when a group decide to try and gfank you just for the fun of it , and don't even say it doesn't happen because it does happen, i did lose a freighter because i happen to be at the wrong gate at the wrong time

NPC station. Orca is pretty good for expensive stuff. Stick it all in the corp hangar or other bays that don't drop when you get popped. You can't prevent ganking, but you can keep it from being profitable.

not with a anti gank orca....they cant scan whats in the corp hanger and whats in it gets destroyed as wel and it takes some power to take a anti gank orca down

they will only do it if they realllly hate you and have enough people willing loose a lot of isk becuase other then the killmail nothing else will drop.

because there will NEVER EVER be anything within 2km of the jita undock when you pop.

@Threadopener: I also could strongly recommend transport contracts as an alternative. You can do other stuff in the meantime, where you would fly your slow freighters / Orcas / transporters and earn more money, what the contract costs. I only use my Orca when I have a trade chance from Hub to Hub. Otherwise I fly my Shuttle T2 (Interceptor), buy, issue transport contract and will be back to home system within a very short time compared to orca and sometimes the Orca just don't have enough space if I am buying minerals for production for example. And always do use enough collateral! I tend to add 30-40% of the value and give 200k per jump. Contract was accepted and fulfilled always within a day!
And if you don't fly an Orca yet you can do a lot of transport contracts until you reach the costs of an orca, a freighter or a even blockade runner :-)



Do you fly an Orca???

MWD Cloak is unnecessary, because an orca is not an interceptor. It will just don't get away really from the gate. If they want to know what you have inside, they will uncloak you immediately and good scanners can scan you down in a very, very short time.

And why the hell do you need to align faster? 10sec. with 100MN MWD will always be 10 seconds, doesn't matter if you fit damage control, nanofibres or other stuff. So it doesn't count.
But what "could" count is your EHP. If I fit my Orca with Nanofibres or ECH2 the EHP is approx. 1/3 of my standard EHP. So the gankers need only a small group of gank ships, where they need to call much more people to gank me and so far I have never seen a group which would have been big enough to gank a Tank-orca. Even though I know that not all gankers are waiting at the gate, but for example in the Belts / Ice Belts of the systems on the trade routes mining and just wait until they receive a "call" that a possible victim is on the way

BUT we are talking about HISEC here! Unless Jita was changed into a lowsec system since last week your recommendations are not very useful. So better orientate on what is requested.
He never mentioned, that he want's to go into lowsec. Lowsec would be another situation. There I would never recommend an orca for just 3k m3.

And exchange one Cargo Rig with a PG-Rig make you loose only little space, but do save you 10% armor hp penalty and more interesting save you a lot of time when you fly your orca! Who cares about 5k m3 less, when you save 35-40sec. align time at each gate / Station. If you really care about those 5k m3 you better buy and fly a freighter.

If the GSC is placed directly in the cargo hold - then it can be scanned by players.

If the GSC is inside a courier contract (double-wrapped) - then it cannot be scanned by players (but still scanned by NPC customs officials, just like the corp hangar). Alternately, you can courier contract something (not a container) to your alt, then have your alt courier contract it back to you (which double-wraps) for the actual move.

Depending on the pirate, they may decide that double-wrapped containers are "interesting enough" to gank.