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So the pendulum is swinging back?

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Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
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#61 - 2013-05-09 17:28:07 UTC
Bengal Bob wrote:
Meditril wrote:
Looks like Amarr have finally found a way to push their farming slaves back to work. Or is there any other explanation why Amarr are are gaining more and more systems back? Maybe the Minmatars have just lost their faith for freedom? What's your opinion?


It is a simple system that the Minmatar use time and again.

Push them into a few systems till they panic and plex desperately and then pull back to let them expand outwards again. This makes them excited and gives them confidence.

Everytime PVP gets slow we do this and get a fresh surge of glory mad over confident Amarr leaving moving around in open space.

It isn't just the farmers that harvest in FW P


This is a common stratagy that the amarr use time and time again. When our militia gets to crowed with 'know it alls, only joined for p versus p, awox cuz its fun' we let the minmatar essentially clean house for us.

As an added bonus the minmatar believe they can claim that legendary FW medal, if they cap that 1 system, and those are the fights that the long time vets absolutely LOVE. Soon, the minmatar get desperate for pvp, and start leroying into us just to light up those guns.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro

Almity
In Exile.
#62 - 2013-05-09 18:28:19 UTC
Bengal Bob wrote:
Meditril wrote:
Looks like Amarr have finally found a way to push their farming slaves back to work. Or is there any other explanation why Amarr are are gaining more and more systems back? Maybe the Minmatars have just lost their faith for freedom? What's your opinion?


It is a simple system that the Minmatar use time and again.

Push them into a few systems till they panic and plex desperately and then pull back to let them expand outwards again. This makes them excited and gives them confidence.

Everytime PVP gets slow we do this and get a fresh surge of glory mad over confident Amarr leaving moving around in open space.

It isn't just the farmers that harvest in FW P



Giving yourself way to much credit there bobby boy. If anything its the Amarr that farm the minmatar militia. Just take a look at the numbers.
Ginger Barbarella
#63 - 2013-05-09 18:55:46 UTC
Meditril wrote:
Looks like Amarr have finally found a way to push their farming slaves back to work. Or is there any other explanation why Amarr are are gaining more and more systems back? Maybe the Minmatars have just lost their faith for freedom? What's your opinion?


Abject boredom on the part of the Minnie militia? When the only option is a) submitting to blobs or b) stations games like at Hek, what option is there? Re-activate your Amarr toon, and start spanking the horse from the other side.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

xECH0
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-05-10 01:14:59 UTC  |  Edited by: xECH0
Almity wrote:
Bengal Bob wrote:
Meditril wrote:
Looks like Amarr have finally found a way to push their farming slaves back to work. Or is there any other explanation why Amarr are are gaining more and more systems back? Maybe the Minmatars have just lost their faith for freedom? What's your opinion?


It is a simple system that the Minmatar use time and again.

Push them into a few systems till they panic and plex desperately and then pull back to let them expand outwards again. This makes them excited and gives them confidence.

Everytime PVP gets slow we do this and get a fresh surge of glory mad over confident Amarr leaving moving around in open space.

It isn't just the farmers that harvest in FW P



Giving yourself way to much credit there bobby boy. If anything its the Amarr that farm the minmatar militia. Just take a look at the numbers.


Almity you're supposed to be on vacation. Get off the forums or I'll tell Shalee!
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
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#65 - 2013-05-10 01:20:07 UTC
xECH0 wrote:
Almity wrote:
Bengal Bob wrote:
Meditril wrote:
Looks like Amarr have finally found a way to push their farming slaves back to work. Or is there any other explanation why Amarr are are gaining more and more systems back? Maybe the Minmatars have just lost their faith for freedom? What's your opinion?


It is a simple system that the Minmatar use time and again.

Push them into a few systems till they panic and plex desperately and then pull back to let them expand outwards again. This makes them excited and gives them confidence.

Everytime PVP gets slow we do this and get a fresh surge of glory mad over confident Amarr leaving moving around in open space.

It isn't just the farmers that harvest in FW P



Giving yourself way to much credit there bobby boy. If anything its the Amarr that farm the minmatar militia. Just take a look at the numbers.


Almity you're supposed to be on vacation. Get off the forums or I'll tell Shalee!


Busted. Although xECH0 aren't you supposed to be FCing?
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#66 - 2013-05-10 02:08:48 UTC
Almity wrote:

Giving yourself way to much credit there bobby boy. If anything its the Amarr that farm the minmatar militia. Just take a look at the numbers.


252k for the TLF vs 249k for the 24IC?

Despite Winmatar doing most of the heavy lifting in generating pvp since half the Amarr are too afraid to go more than two jumps from their home system.

This is Eve, not Halo or CoD. Raw kill stats mean absolutely nothing.

Quote:
It is a simple system that the Minmatar use time and again.

Push them into a few systems till they panic and plex desperately and then pull back to let them expand outwards again. This makes them excited and gives them confidence.

Everytime PVP gets slow we do this and get a fresh surge of glory mad over confident Amarr leaving moving around in open space.


You could have saved time and words by skipping the 'just as planned' posturing and admit you're lazy. FW's negative feedback mechanism is hoping the winners get bored, but don't try to pass it off something you intended.
Bengal Bob
Slymsloot Enterprises
#67 - 2013-05-10 09:30:23 UTC
Almity wrote:



Giving yourself way to much credit there bobby boy. If anything its the Amarr that farm the minmatar militia. Just take a look at the numbers.



My numbers seem healthy.

It benefits us if our general militia lose loads of ships because it helps the nervous Amarr feel safe moving around.

You guys know right that we can and have taken any Amarr system at will?

Sahtogas wasn't taken because Wave, LNA, Iron Oxide never committed in full like we did when we wanted Kamela or Dal or Kourm or Huola. We just poked the bee's nest so all the Amarr roleplayers would finally call in help and commit to pvp to defend the last system and save the honour of the Emperor!

And hey presto, suddenly the Amarr are logging on and active all over space in small gangs. Seems like exactly the kind of situation we have been begging for Big smile

This cycle is almost eerily familiar isn't it? Although the guys had to push a lot further this time before the Amarr came back.

Simple psychology really.

Hopefully this time you guys will build some long term confidence, but the problem has always been that even a few minor setbacks cause fractures between and within alliances in the Amarr and things fall apart.

Anyways, see you in space for pew pew, and remember: We hate and are scared of active Amarr pilots roaming in open space. You are doing exactly the opposite of what we want.
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2013-05-10 09:47:03 UTC
I know TRIAD is glad KOZA is coming back to Aset. It was boring without you.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#69 - 2013-05-10 09:54:47 UTC
Bengal Bob wrote:
....we have more farming alts than our heathen God has nipples....

There sorted it for you, no need to get all wordy Lol
Bengal Bob
Slymsloot Enterprises
#70 - 2013-05-10 10:53:00 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Bengal Bob wrote:
....we have more farming alts than our heathen God has nipples....

There sorted it for you, no need to get all wordy Lol


I was intrigued by the talk of nipples, but then upset at the implication I believe in anything other than autocannons.
Destru Kaneda
Arzad Police Department
#71 - 2013-05-10 11:19:56 UTC
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
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#72 - 2013-05-10 17:25:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Flyinghotpocket
Milton Middleson wrote:

Despite Winmatar doing most of the heavy lifting in generating pvp since half the Amarr are too afraid to go more than two jumps from their home system.

Bengal Bob wrote:

Sahtogas wasn't taken because Wave, LNA, Iron Oxide never committed in full like we did when we wanted Kamela or Dal or Kourm or Huola.


Roll

someone isn't right here.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro

Lucius Regall
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#73 - 2013-05-10 17:56:50 UTC
I can confirm Bengal's account that we never coordinated a push for Sahtogas like we did when we took other systems. I wanted to set up a push for Sahtogas several weeks ago, but was overruled and we took a different system. We were in the process of coordinating a push for Sahtogas with the key players when one of the main actors pulled out, which made taking Sahtogas impossible due to lack of TZ coverage.

As for this so called pendulum, systems that are not inhabited(the vast majority of FW systems) will constantly flip back and forth. The only real difference between the Minmatar and the Amarr, is that when it comes down to it, the Minmatar can hold about a half dozen systems and the Amarr can hold just one.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#74 - 2013-05-10 18:16:46 UTC
Lucius Regall wrote:
...The only real difference between the Minmatar and the Amarr, is that when it comes down to it, the Minmatar can hold about a half dozen systems and the Amarr can hold just one.



Well there is a difference in numbers of pilots too right? 5895 versus 3747.


Am I corretct to say this is the 3rd time in a year that minmatr failed to take all the amarr systems? I think one time kamela and Sahtogas held out. And the other 2 times amarr was down to sahtogas.



Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#75 - 2013-05-10 18:42:21 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Lucius Regall wrote:
...The only real difference between the Minmatar and the Amarr, is that when it comes down to it, the Minmatar can hold about a half dozen systems and the Amarr can hold just one.



Well there is a difference in numbers of pilots too right? 5895 versus 3747.


Am I corretct to say this is the 3rd time in a year that minmatr failed to take all the amarr systems? I think one time kamela and Sahtogas held out. And the other 2 times amarr was down to sahtogas.





Taking home systems is difficult nbs.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven.

Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
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#76 - 2013-05-11 11:05:40 UTC
Bengal Bob wrote:

You guys know right that we can and have taken any Amarr system at will?

Sahtogas wasn't taken because Wave, LNA, Iron Oxide never committed in full like we did when we wanted Kamela or Dal or Kourm or Huola. We just poked the bee's nest so all the Amarr roleplayers would finally call in help and commit to pvp to defend the last system and save the honour of the Emperor!

And hey presto, suddenly the Amarr are logging on and active all over space in small gangs. Seems like exactly the kind of situation we have been begging for Big smile

This cycle is almost eerily familiar isn't it? Although the guys had to push a lot further this time before the Amarr came back.

Simple psychology really.

Hopefully this time you guys will build some long term confidence, but the problem has always been that even a few minor setbacks cause fractures between and within alliances in the Amarr and things fall apart.

Anyways, see you in space for pew pew, and remember: We hate and are scared of active Amarr pilots roaming in open space. You are doing exactly the opposite of what we want.


Double dog dare you to try to take sahtogas again.

And if by

Bengal Bob wrote:

You guys know right that we can and have taken any Amarr system at will?


You mean

Bengal Bob wrote:


We can ninja any system that is 99% contested while you are asleep, that was only 99% because of cloaky stabbed russian farmers.



Then I wholeheartedly agree.
Ninlarra
Ninlarra Brand Ships and Modules
#77 - 2013-05-11 15:07:13 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
minmatar militia needs more farming ground


No, Seriously, THis Is Really All There Is To It.

/Thread

Not Sure Why Every Word Is Capitalized. Stupid Smartphones.
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#78 - 2013-05-11 15:39:49 UTC
No one cares unless you're a role player or forced to live in low security space. Oh! Or you're an Amarr farmer.


- killz

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Almity
In Exile.
#79 - 2013-05-13 00:52:51 UTC
Bengal Bob wrote:
Almity wrote:



Giving yourself way to much credit there bobby boy. If anything its the Amarr that farm the minmatar militia. Just take a look at the numbers.



My numbers seem healthy.

It benefits us if our general militia lose loads of ships because it helps the nervous Amarr feel safe moving around.

You guys know right that we can and have taken any Amarr system at will?

Sahtogas wasn't taken because Wave, LNA, Iron Oxide never committed in full like we did when we wanted Kamela or Dal or Kourm or Huola. We just poked the bee's nest so all the Amarr roleplayers would finally call in help and commit to pvp to defend the last system and save the honour of the Emperor!

And hey presto, suddenly the Amarr are logging on and active all over space in small gangs. Seems like exactly the kind of situation we have been begging for Big smile

This cycle is almost eerily familiar isn't it? Although the guys had to push a lot further this time before the Amarr came back.

Simple psychology really.

Hopefully this time you guys will build some long term confidence, but the problem has always been that even a few minor setbacks cause fractures between and within alliances in the Amarr and things fall apart.

Anyways, see you in space for pew pew, and remember: We hate and are scared of active Amarr pilots roaming in open space. You are doing exactly the opposite of what we want.



And the last time you took a BS fleet out on the weekend and ran into my guys and fweddit what happened? Oh right, you lost. Then Anne takes her toys and goes off to nullsec or wherever. Then you lose a titan. Was all of this part of your grand plans as well?

Keep the spin coming Bob, everyone knows its the Russian farming alts who put you in a position to take systems. We were quite content at T2 and plugging away merrily with our little fleets and pvp. Then comes the Russian isk farming hoard who got too greedy and crashed your LP market.
Dan Carter Murray
#80 - 2013-05-13 06:29:19 UTC
I want to play a game called "what's the nickname?" where we get to ask questions and answer questions.

What's Amarrian Vengeance's nickname?
What's Nezmor's Golden Griffin's nickname?
What's In Exile's nickname?
What are the rest of the Amarr alliance nicknames?

Okay my turn
What's Iron Oxide's nickname? Iron Dockside, Iron Blobside, Iron Tardside, etc.
What's Swift Angel's Alliance nickname? Swift Idiots, Swift Dockers
What's TRIAD's nickname? triadnooblets, triharder, triedbutdiedandbroughteveryonetokillafrigate

What does this have to do with anything? Nothing. I just can't get to a PC for a couple more days.

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