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30 days dual character training - now on Singularity

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Dracoth Simertet
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
#121 - 2013-05-10 15:53:02 UTC
Great idea, hope this makes it over to TQ

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Drac
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#122 - 2013-05-10 15:54:14 UTC
Not sure i really like this or not, but im sure CCP will make a fukton of cash off it.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#123 - 2013-05-10 15:54:57 UTC
Legion40k wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Legion40k wrote:
Think of the new ISK sink
What new ISK sink?


me finally sinking ISKies into plex :P


This is not an ISK sink ( except possibly if confiscated PLEX are used during a shortage PLEX crises that Dr E talked about last year)
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#124 - 2013-05-10 15:59:33 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
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An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Empyre
Chaotic Balance
#125 - 2013-05-10 16:02:05 UTC
Whoever came up with that idea should be getting a huge bonus this year. That is one of the most brilliant business moves I've ever seen from CCP. Character transfers just felt like a waste of money but this actually feels like you're paying for something tangible.
Altaen
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#126 - 2013-05-10 16:12:56 UTC
Noddy Comet wrote:
inb4 people cry "but, it's not fair.. I have THREE character slots..."


Pah, half a month to train one cloaky cyno alt, half a month to train another cloaky cyno alt. I see no problems here.
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#127 - 2013-05-10 16:13:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaxix
RubyPorto wrote:
DelightSucker wrote:
this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account

whats good about this??

its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever.



Say I want a Cyno alt/indy alt, or other fixed-SP-limit character on my main account. This would let me train it up without stopping training my main and avoid the transfer fee.

I can see some benefits for people wanting to make the best of a situation on a particular account. Particularly old accounts with a high SP main. Overall though, this seems more beneficial for CCP than players.

I think this is a benefit for people who are not familiar with long term account planning. I always planned out extra accounts so that they became self-sustaining. That is, setup whatever it is you need first (as a Black Frog pilot, that was often cynos), then setup a character who can make isk while not logged in (PI, research/builder, trader), then setup a character to train for sale. For me, those characters for sale were often freighter pilots, who I also put to work in RF/BF doing AFK hauling. That enabled me to generate a steady stream of ISK, get a big cash payout when the sale was complete, pluls have my task character I needed in the first place. If you spin up 7 or 8 of those accounts and combine their efforts into production/trade, you can big ISK and the monthly PLEX is a small expense in comparison.

Keep in mind, that a PLEX is for 30 days, so if the training you're planning takes less than 30 days, you need to have a plan for the excess. I don't know how all the new changes will work out with training times, but I used to be able to get a freighter pilot into his first freighter in an average of 20 days or so. So for 1 PLEX plus 21 day trial (buddy account), I got 51 days, which got me a cyno pilot, a freighter pilot with 30 days of contract work, and a head start on a third sale character. (In the old buddy account system, I also got the PLEX back. Those were the days, sigh) I guess we'll see how it works out in practice.

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Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#128 - 2013-05-10 16:15:21 UTC
Yes! Please add this to ship with Odyssey! It's a great tool for people that just have a short train needed!!

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#129 - 2013-05-10 16:20:39 UTC
I see this perk and approve...

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#130 - 2013-05-10 16:23:17 UTC
Empyre wrote:
Whoever came up with that idea should be getting a huge bonus this year. That is one of the most brilliant business moves I've ever seen from CCP. Character transfers just felt like a waste of money but this actually feels like you're paying for something tangible.


Well it's something players have been asking for since about half an hour after PLEX were introduced.

But you know CCP - they love the Soon™

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#131 - 2013-05-10 16:25:16 UTC
Maximus Andendare wrote:
Yes! Please add this to ship with Odyssey! It's a great tool for people that just have a short train needed!!


Amen. it is utterly frustrating to have to put off a goal with a main toon becuase you need another cyno toon lol.

Just recently I decided to take a trip to the dark side and train up a mining toon (I feel dirty just typing the word "mining"!, but the venture looks sweet lol), so i have had to put back training up another low sec pvp/pve toon to do it. I already have 5 accounts and don't want to add another.

With this option, CCP makes a little extra scratch as I buy a GTC to turn into plex and I get to accomplish ingame goals more reasonably. win win.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#132 - 2013-05-10 16:29:02 UTC
EvEa Deva wrote:
Not sure i really like this or not, but im sure CCP will make a fukton of cash off it.


Just as long as CCP reinvests some this money back into EVE instead of the Dust moneypit
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#133 - 2013-05-10 16:30:40 UTC
i am daniel plain and i approve this change.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Caljiav Ocanon
The Holy Rollers
#134 - 2013-05-10 16:40:15 UTC
I have hated the fact that CCP feels compelled to not let people have two (or more) useful characters per account and force people to use and pay for multiple accounts. Although this is nice, it's still a sham.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2013-05-10 16:43:14 UTC
This is a GREAT change.

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#136 - 2013-05-10 16:43:34 UTC
Excellent Idea!

Now with 100% less Troll.

eddie valvetino
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#137 - 2013-05-10 16:45:58 UTC
am I the only person that thinks this is utterly pointless?

So you pay the same price to train an alt on the same account as your main. meaning you can only use it as when your main is NOT logged on, as you would to just have another account that lets you use both accounts at the same time.

I get that it means your alts can train little bits at a time, but it's MUCH cheaper to have a second account and then transfer that toon to your main account and pay for that with RL money. Honestly.. what useful thing can you gain in a month? two months, or even three? Even a covert scout doesn't happen inside 3 months...

Nice work CCP, now we see why you love Jita scammers.
JEFFRAIDER
THIGH GUYS
#138 - 2013-05-10 16:55:07 UTC
eddie valvetino wrote:
am I the only person that thinks this is utterly pointless?

So you pay the same price to train an alt on the same account as your main. meaning you can only use it as when your main is NOT logged on, as you would to just have another account that lets you use both accounts at the same time.

I get that it means your alts can train little bits at a time, but it's MUCH cheaper to have a second account and then transfer that toon to your main account and pay for that with RL money. Honestly.. what useful thing can you gain in a month? two months, or even three? Even a covert scout doesn't happen inside 3 months...

Nice work CCP, now we see why you love Jita scammers.


ahahahaha covert scouts totally take 3 months you big mouthbreathing dummy
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#139 - 2013-05-10 16:56:41 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
DelightSucker wrote:
this feature have been here forever, its called and ALT account

whats good about this??

its gonna cost the same as running another acc, that you can actually play on, have 2 cynos alts or 2 noob spys or whatever.



Say I want a Cyno alt/indy alt, or other fixed-SP-limit character on my main account. This would let me train it up without stopping training my main and avoid the transfer fee.


Hmm I was going to argue with you and then I realized that makes sense. Damn.

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Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad
#140 - 2013-05-10 16:59:11 UTC
Probably the second best thing CCP has done in the last few years after the black ops buff.

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