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Ice Changes - Too Disrupting a Transition?

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-05-09 18:56:36 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Their shouldn't even be Ice in highsec.

Quoting for truth.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Idol1
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-05-09 18:57:09 UTC
High sec mining in Caldari space as a sole career is over. There won't be enough ice to mine and quickly all the common ore belts will be depleted by would be ice miners.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#23 - 2013-05-09 18:59:13 UTC
Dr Gaijin wrote:
CCP will, in one fell swoop, destroy an entire way of life with this upcoming patches. They are dismantling EVE's industrial backbone ...blah blah blah.


And here i was thinking that all this time Goonswarm was trying to bring AFK Ice mining to CCPs attention as something that needed fixing.



There is no good way to make a transition to anything in this game. There will always be those who kick their feet and resist to any change. Sometimes its best to rip the bandaid off quickly then to sit there and slowly drag out the hairpulling and pain.

Wait...why am I trying to speak common sense to a goon...

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Isonda
suspended animations DOT
#24 - 2013-05-09 19:01:10 UTC
OP..
This change is awesome.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-05-09 19:22:38 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Lol Yeah right, you're not fooling anyone. They'll just rage quit.


good

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Posta Wifda Mosta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-05-09 19:24:38 UTC
Dr Gaijin wrote:
CCP will, in one fell swoop, destroy an entire way of life with this upcoming patches. They are dismantling EVE's industrial backbone in favor of focusing on the financial sector in Jita, while unemployed ice miners are told "too bad, get a new job, the Ice industry just isn't tenable anymore". At the very least CCP should offer job-training programs to help former botters transition to another occupation in this new society CCP seems so determined to push on us... otherwise, I would not be surprised to see many of these players end up in roving Nullsec or Pirate gangs, harassing the remaining productive members of society not ensconced in their protective 4-4 cocoon.


The transition from mining bot to trade bot is quite easy I hear.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-05-09 19:26:47 UTC
Posta Wifda Mosta wrote:
The transition from mining bot to trade bot is quite easy I hear.


so is the transition from "Active" to "Suspended"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-05-09 19:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: LHA Tarawa
I would guess the transition from high sec bot to null sec bot is equally easy. In fact, if they rent a fairly safe system and use a limited number of bots to ice mine, the half cycle time could really increase profitability, depending, of course, on how much of the time they have to be safed up for neuts in system.
Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
#29 - 2013-05-09 19:41:06 UTC
Dr Gaijin wrote:
CCP will, in one fell swoop, destroy an entire way of life with this upcoming patches. They are dismantling EVE's industrial backbone in favor of focusing on the financial sector in Jita, while unemployed ice miners are told "too bad, get a new job, the Ice industry just isn't tenable anymore". At the very least CCP should offer job-training programs to help former botters transition to another occupation in this new society CCP seems so determined to push on us... otherwise, I would not be surprised to see many of these players end up in roving Nullsec or Pirate gangs, harassing the remaining productive members of society not ensconced in their protective 4-4 cocoon.



Look, CCP are changing probing and making it so easy my 4yr old could do it.

1)Just grab a probe ship,
2) probe for 1-2mins and find ice.
3) mine ice
4)profit???
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-05-09 19:51:08 UTC  |  Edited by: LHA Tarawa
Bruce Kemp wrote:
Dr Gaijin wrote:
CCP will, in one fell swoop, destroy an entire way of life with this upcoming patches. They are dismantling EVE's industrial backbone in favor of focusing on the financial sector in Jita, while unemployed ice miners are told "too bad, get a new job, the Ice industry just isn't tenable anymore". At the very least CCP should offer job-training programs to help former botters transition to another occupation in this new society CCP seems so determined to push on us... otherwise, I would not be surprised to see many of these players end up in roving Nullsec or Pirate gangs, harassing the remaining productive members of society not ensconced in their protective 4-4 cocoon.



Look, CCP are changing probing and making it so easy my 4yr old could do it.

1)Just grab a probe ship,
2) probe for 1-2mins and find ice.
3) mine ice
4)profit???



Ice will be an anom, not a sig. No need to even probe. Your ship will auto scan for it when you jump into system, undock, login in space, ect.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-05-10 00:44:40 UTC
Dranchela wrote:
Adapt or die.

Don't worry, I bet you're not the only one who didn't read the first post before replying.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#32 - 2013-05-10 02:06:30 UTC
Oh no, they are gonna have to use their on board scanners! Imagine that! That is gonna be so game breaking for the ice miners. Sad
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2013-05-10 05:26:32 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
Oh no, they are gonna have to use their on board scanners! Imagine that! That is gonna be so game breaking for the ice miners. Sad

They cant even fit a damage control to avoid ganks. Miners are by far the least adaptable pilots in EVE and out of them ice miners are the most useless.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#34 - 2013-05-10 10:59:32 UTC
Dr Gaijin wrote:
CCP will, in one fell swoop, destroy an entire way of life with this upcoming patches.


It is not one that I will mourn the loss of.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Velicitia
XS Tech
#35 - 2013-05-10 11:46:39 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
Oh no, they are gonna have to use their on board scanners! Imagine that! That is gonna be so game breaking for the ice miners. Sad

They cant even fit a damage control to avoid ganks. Miners are by far the least adaptable pilots in EVE and out of them ice miners are the most useless.


some of us adapt... then die a lot ... then adapt some more, and die a lot in wholly different ships Oops

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
FlamesOfHeaven
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2013-05-10 11:59:49 UTC
The cycle of life and death.

Eve natural selection

I approve of this.
Sandrestal
Pakistani Taxi Drivers
#37 - 2013-05-10 12:29:03 UTC
FlamesOfHeaven wrote:
The cycle of life and death.

Eve natural selection

I approve of this.


Until of course, it is your ox that is gored.
Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#38 - 2013-05-10 13:28:32 UTC
They should replace the ice fields with comets. Ice miners would have to come into the system, use the on board scanner to find them, warp to them, match speed with the comet using "keep at range" then mine away.

Oh, by the way, the comets would be moving really fast, so ice mining would need some pretty fast ships or some sort of tractor beam anchor to grab on to the comet to match speed.

I can hear the screaming and taste the tears already...

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.
Jackson Erata
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#39 - 2013-05-10 13:46:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jackson Erata
Idol1 wrote:
High sec mining in Caldari space as a sole career is over. There won't be enough ice to mine and quickly all the common ore belts will be depleted by would be ice miners.


I feel high sec mining in Caldari space will remain a solo career merely because the resources in the belts aren't really valuable enough (even en-masse) to warrant ex ice botters to go after them. Also, the already established highsec mining corps would most likely frown on an influx of ore on the market, and chase away botting ships in "their" belts.

Besides, the belts in anything above 0.8 are gone immediately after the refill as it is.
PsiMin
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-05-10 13:47:00 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Their shouldn't even be Ice in highsec.



Next you will be saying there should be no normal belts, ice can form anywhere so why not in high sec, i agree maybe not in so many places but to get rid is also wrong
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