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New dev blog: Ship-troduction: The Amarr Oracle

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Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2011-11-03 05:31:01 UTC
CCP might go overboard with the nerfing making everything but the minmatar bc thrasher worth flying. I'm not sure if i am going to bother holding my figures and ill come back when they post some stats that will be final
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
#102 - 2011-11-03 07:04:47 UTC
Kern Walzky wrote:
i still fail to see the need for even more hard hitting BC faster then most cruisers. i fail to see the role.

i would have liked to see a T3 BC instead?



For those without the cap building ability of 0.0 this is a breakout ship that they can train and actually damage capital ships significantly.
Evelgrivion
Origin.
Fraternity.
#103 - 2011-11-03 07:58:54 UTC
The Oracle looks really good with four turret hard points... what if it got a 100% damage bonus to large energy turrets to keep it pretty? P
Wolfman122
Last Huzzah
#104 - 2011-11-03 08:38:28 UTC
So let me get this straight, the Amarr Oracle does massive damage at mid to long range, but the new Gallente ship is a glass cannon blaster boat? Sigh Gallente get screwed again for anything BC that is actually practical in a fleet fight.

Looks like it's time to cross train. Cry

-wolfman
Leon Razor
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2011-11-03 08:46:55 UTC
I love the design of this ship. So happy to see it find a place in EVE. Looking forward to the Tornado as well. I'm still on the fence with the Talos, but the design definitely makes me think of a bigger, blockier Deimos. Makes sense since it's the same idea but with bigger guns.

While I'm here, I wanted to ask if we might ever see the Naru-Kami by Baranha come to EVE (it won second place behind the Tornado). I love the detailed command bridge on that ship and everything else about it. Anyone else really like it and have a some ideas on what role it might fill?
Raneru
Contemplate
#106 - 2011-11-03 09:39:09 UTC
I'm looking forward to flying the Oracle and Tornado. Unless the hybrid/ship changes make a huge difference, I can't see the Talos being any more popular than the Brutix/Deimos/Hyperion as you'd basically need to drop it right on something at 0. The caldari one may interest people who do anomalies/belts im guessing?

I'll definately be getting one of each to try them out though Blink
Dilligafmofo
Semper-Tyrannis
Shoot First.
#107 - 2011-11-03 09:48:02 UTC
Looks awesome.




Anyone have a tissue ? Oops
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#108 - 2011-11-03 09:57:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Erim Solfara wrote:
Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles Cry


I imagine, that the weight distribution of the ship was designed in such a way that it would work, after all we can't see all the funky, flashy parts and lights and machineries that make that nifty piece of faith enforcing space ship work.

EDIT: besides all those nice little thruster in the upper half could just be there to enable better ship spinning, or did You see any other maneuver thrusters? Cool

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

David Xavier
The Capsuleers of Unconscious Thought
#109 - 2011-11-03 10:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: David Xavier
Samuel FB wrote:
wanna see the new caldari battlecruiser in rough form ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J42F4WkeFQ4
27seconds in ... small glimps but very sexual Blink


At least the Oracle and the Tornado looks awesome, the Naga is so-so. Let's forget about the 4th one, seeing how it turned out and they sticking with that model makes my blood boil.

I don't suffer from insanity.. I enjoy it !

Luscius Uta
#110 - 2011-11-03 10:18:00 UTC
Reminds me of turrets of Portal, but I like it. Also, "Oracle" is much better name than "Mentor".

Workarounds are not bugfixes.

Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#111 - 2011-11-03 10:20:52 UTC
Raneru wrote:
I'm looking forward to flying the Oracle and Tornado. Unless the hybrid/ship changes make a huge difference, I can't see the Talos being any more popular than the Brutix/Deimos/Hyperion as you'd basically need to drop it right on something at 0. The caldari one may interest people who do anomalies/belts im guessing?

I'll definately be getting one of each to try them out though Blink



Sir, you officialy never fought against a Vigilant or Vindicator. Blasters may be weak, but once these Webbers get in Range you are in big trouble.

Talos with Web, Warp Disrupt, MWD and Cap Booster will **** your ass.

97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,

"DO A BARREL ROLL!"

Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#112 - 2011-11-03 10:26:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Havak Kouvo wrote:
They are saving the best for last. At last a TORP BATTLECRUISER!!! can you image that... a battlecruiser with torpedoes. It could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire.


I already have a frigatte witth torps... it's faster, has greater range than any other existing torp boat and is nigh unhittable for any Battleship that won't use cruise or heavy missiles...

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#113 - 2011-11-03 10:40:22 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Havak Kouvo wrote:
They are saving the best for last. At last a TORP BATTLECRUISER!!! can you image that... a battlecruiser with torpedoes. It could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire.


I already have a frigatte witth torps... it's faster, has greater range than any other existing torp boat and is nigh unhittable for any Battleship that won't use cruise or heavy missiles...


Except for the Drones of said BS.


The Torp Ship may also suck, because no Bonus on Painters.

97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,

"DO A BARREL ROLL!"

Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#114 - 2011-11-03 10:47:27 UTC
Damien White wrote:


Except for the Drones of said BS.


The Torp Ship may also suck, because no Bonus on Painters.


Just a Minor setback ^^ besides, You'd need all drone range increasing skills to level 5 AND a drone link augmentor to be able to send those ugly little buggers after me... sentries excluded those are really nasty. -.-

Of course a Drone Boat like the Dominix will just have two DLAs. But I'm also confident that I'll neve ever have to fight a dominix in my single poor little manticore (I'd try to cloak up or flee the scene until back up arrives). ^-^

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#115 - 2011-11-03 10:55:43 UTC
If you engage me at this Range I simply warp out.

1 type of ship against another Bombers are kinda weak, you need Recons etc to effectively utilize your range.



But tbh, thats what I like at these new ships, they are kinda the same.

97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,

"DO A BARREL ROLL!"

Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#116 - 2011-11-03 11:00:24 UTC
Damien White wrote:
If you engage me at this Range I simply warp out.

1 type of ship against another Bombers are kinda weak, you need Recons etc to effectively utilize your range.



But tbh, thats what I like at these new ships, they are kinda the same.



I can see me pondering the market, thinking "It looks so cool, wantwantwantwant.... But my Bomber can do the same and costs only a tenth... '-.- "

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Salvia Olima
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2011-11-03 11:23:51 UTC
Is it a Templar, an amarr fighter used in carriers?
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#118 - 2011-11-03 11:46:20 UTC
Salvia Olima wrote:
Is it a Templar, an amarr fighter used in carriers?


lol no, I actually wanted to sy stealth bomber ^^

I suspect the price will be pretty high as long as those ships are new. Lol

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2011-11-03 11:54:16 UTC
They said it would be a little cheaper than battleships. I suspect somewhere around 45-50M.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#120 - 2011-11-03 12:04:58 UTC
Shadowsword wrote:
They said it would be a little cheaper than battleships. I suspect somewhere around 45-50M.


Still expensive, I bought my Stealth Bomber for 14m isk (w/o equipment of course), and that's a Frig with Torpedoes, Bomb Launcher AND CovOps device. True enough, it's a victim to other frigs and drone boats but I don't see a BC With large guns doing particularly much damage to frigs either. ^^

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.